oh thanks to take the time this is cool!, is what i needed!

I have to book some time in the year to do elisp

and works perfectly, thank you again

ok

i use org-capture to archive my thoughts, so i insert fast in list b the thought that belongs to list b, but i need to do brainstorming, mindmapping and need the tree structure

is a good trick, but need to deal often with confidential info, so should make a map, make a picture, make a safe OCR, destroy the paper, not a good idea, i prefer my pc not connected to the internet

content is confidential for a third part service, thanks

ink about it is: org-mode is for structured text. Brainstorming suffers from too much structure.

as a mindmapper i would be totally fine with this way of working in org mode

is what i do example

lista

listb

sublistb1

subsublistb1

sublistb2

listc

​

but then if I select and do toggle heading(on doom is space h t)

i will get flatmapped everything in one list level, a script that would examine the list inserting an ASTERISK from beginning row to first regex [0-9a-z] plus space would work but i would love an easier solution

yeah I examined this option already some time ago, does not work with level of nested things i need to write

please check freeplane to see mindmap in action, is something should be better integrated with org imo