Wow, I bet you’re fun at a football game. Who did you vote for?

No, we really don’t. We have to blame the people voting for trump or being apathetic about not voting. Throw in some Russian trolling, some Meta and X bullshit and we get a pretty shitty stew. Oh yeah, and the sexists and racists too.

Many of them have no clue about half of the stuff that he did in the first place so theres nothing for them to dislike. They just don’t watch anything political, so their news sources are twitter, and ads that appear as they surf the web.

How is this part happening? It really is our media being taken over by billionaires and product placed into echo chambers.

I agree with you about the independent and working and all that, but that’s for lower offices. It’s totally doable, I live in Seattle and it’s done all the time. I’m talking higher office. Unless the r’s mass quit and all money is taken out, there is a .01% (not scientific) chance that a progressive would make it through the primaries.

Lemmy is the best I’ve found so far even though the Russians and other trolls are here. The trolls are the only ones using shitty tactics and trying to guide the conversations with what they post. Most people here see it because we’re refugees from the bad place. Like the convo we’re having would have been downvoted to hell and back while trying to start a fight anywhere else.

You’re right, I didn’t mean to go after you. I’m just frustrated at how shitty our voting and purposely non-voting country is.

As far as dems go, Biden won with the Harris strategy. That’s what they thought would work against trump. Obviously they were wrong. There’s a bunch of gerrymandering (cheating) going on as well.

Here is the bottom line and what I don’t think people understand though, the people funding these campaigns for higher office don’t want progressives. That’s it, the end. How do you fix that now? People may vote for them if they’re given the opportunity, but they will never get the opportunity. That’s just the reality of it.

That’s very true. I would love it to be arguments between progressive and normal democrats vs democrat vs fascist republican, but that’s not the world we live in. I’m angry at the voters, there is no way they didn’t know what they were voting for this time.

What would you have these people do differently once they’re in? I’m going to go through the issues and it ain’t “the dems.”

• Russia did an amazing social media job and played the r’s like a fiddle. We probably don’t even know the half of it because of the bubble world they live in.
• The r’s have placed SCOTUS judges that are openly corrupt and actively harmful to our country.
• The r’s have placed judges to fuck with many states with gerrymandering and it worked.
• Half of the voting public of America is sexist and racist.

I’ve seen an active population going after the dems today and it makes me laugh my ass off. It’s pretty good propaganda. The r’s voted for a monster and you’re blaming the people who thought there were enough decent people on that side to keep him away. Nope, we were wrong.

What action do you think we should do? Real talk. The government has been taken over a long time ago by anti-democracy peeps, how do we get it back?

Progressives have never done the same for the DNC, they’ve just let it continue being the same old shitty party for two decades. Every time they drift further rightward, people complain, and then forget.

I disagree on that part. Everyone is just fucking tired trying to save the country from our fellow dummies. We are just trying to survive and have no idea of what to do.