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Please know that even while our communities are moderated by @Vacant@programming.dev us admins are still making sure the content is within our TOS and community guidelines🤗
although it would be nice to find volunteer moderators as it would help distribute both power and responsibilities🌻🍀
I’ve run Arch without swap for many years without issues. The key of course is that you need enough RAM for what you are trying to do with your computer.
There’s no reason why a 32GB RAM + 0GB swap system should have more problems than a 16GB RAM + 16GB swap system with the same workload. If anything, the former is going to run much better.
I run a lot of VMs; I typically run 2 at the same time in addition to running other programs in the background, my usecase is more eccentric than most users in the Linux space which is already pretty niche
What is finicky about a swap file?
It’s just this:
mkswap -U clear --size 4G --file /swapfile swapon /swapfileDone
I’m using BTRFS with LUKS-based Full Disk Encryption, the last time I used swapfiles with BTRFS with FDE it was in 2019 and it was painful to say the least, I rememeber spending several weeks scouring Stack and the Arch forums in order to get it to work properly.
- usecases and preferences will differ from user to user, so I wouldn’t advise assuming a one-size-fits-all solution
If anything it’s way easier to create a file in your filesystem than having to (re-)partition your drive to have a swap partition. Much more flexible too if you want to change your swap configuration in the future.
swapfiles are great in that you can resize them at will, however after trying all 3 options I found myself questioning when would I even want to resize swap for a single system, so at a certain point I felt that swapfiles were more of a gimmick cause again you don’t really want to depend on swap if can.
- if you’re consistently reaching your physical memory limits, upgrading your ram will most likely be the best bet for both system stability and hardware durability
after a quick preliminary search,
a couple of things I’ve found out:
this might not necessarily be adopted by the mainstream desktop users, due to the nature of zram compressing data in addition to disallowing hibernation
Hibernating to swap on zram is not supported, even when zram is configured with a backing device on permanent storage. logind will protect against trying to hibernate to a swap space on zram.
- data compression by nature incurs dataloss so there are both pro & con tradeoffs to which should be communicated to the user otherwise they might receive an unnecessary worse user experience:
- “why is my computer so buggy?”
- (the system is working as it’s coded but not working in they way the user expects it to)
- this would be unfortunate as they might leave back to Windows or MacOS
- (the system is working as it’s coded but not working in they way the user expects it to)
- I could be completely wrong about this, if so please comment or disregard this section entirely
- “why is my computer so buggy?”
to me atm; zram seems great for server based systems rather than for desktop users’ systems
one other method for zram mainstream adoption is to encourage an eccentric system that I’m currently using, which is to have the host system only contain minimal packages to run Virtual Machines:
- zram compression might be fine as the main services/programs are run within their relevant and/or separated VM containers
- this simultaneously achieves:
- Wikipedia - Separation of Concerns
- enhanced security as the host is further firewalled/bubblewrapped from the guest like Flatpaking/containerization (and malware is less likely to activate due to malicious users being unhelpful in letting their programs run in a VM 😢🤗)
- this simultaneously achieves:
- hibernation can still be achived by save-stating VMs (VM restoration at will basically achieves hibernation so it doesn’t really matter if the host is shutdown so long as all VMs are saved by the user before host shutdown)
sorry for the long comment!
stuff like this interests me the most so I’ve spent a lot of time in learning and tinkering around🤗
definitely agreed on against using swap as memory as much as you can especially since it can needlessly wear out your ssd (m.2 on most if not all on modern systems)
allocating swap is still necessary as it provides features such as:
- mitigating OOM scenarios (but doesn’t prevent them completely)
- enabling system hibernation(suspend-to-disk)
On my journey to learning Arch Linux I’ve personally tried:
- 0 swap: which was pretty awful with constant unexpected system freezes/crashes
- swap file: finicky but doable
- swap partition: typical default/ol’reliable
the last two doesn’t guarantee 0 problems as user errors such as allocating too much system memory to VMs can cause issues for the host system, but it does tend to mitigate the majority of issues that prevent the perception of system stability in comparison to Windows or Macs
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The issue here is that marking articles like these as NSFW perpetuates the core issue of the content discussed: that this is a woman problem that should be talked about in private.
I guess that’s where the majority of downvotes come from as well: “this should not be viewed in the workplace” is a catastrophic signal in this context for the message.
yeaaa I can totally see where my request would be problematic to say the least
All of this is my personal opinion of course but I wanted to leave you with more than just a two word comment!
Yup and Thank you!🤗
- all the points you made felt solid and made sense to me
based on your and other commentors I feel like I have a better grasp on future moderation decisions
for today, I def fucked up so this is a learning momement for me
again thank you for commenting!🤗🌻
As stated, images are reasonable to blur, because having them in your screen would Not be Safe For Work. Text generally doesn’t really make sense to blur, especially an article published by a major news source. If it could be seen in print sitting on a lobby coffee table, it probably doesn’t qualify as NSFW.
yup, I agree with all of your points
Text generally doesn’t really make sense to blur, especially an article published by a major news source.
also while rereading this I realized that I’m not really sure what the mainstream concensus decision is when it comes to NSFW text-based content
- I know Fifty Shades was referenced/used in an episode of The Office
so maybe it’s fine?🤔? not too sure
