@coldredlight @peyotecosmico interesting!

Do you have any thoughts on what kind of mod tooling the Threadiverse needs to make mods’ work easier?

@Barbarian772 I don’t have to. It’s the ChatGPT people making extremely strong claims about equivalence of ChatGPT and human intelligence. I merely demand proof of that equivalence. Which they are unable to provide, and instead use rhetoric and parlor tricks and a lot of hand waving to divert and distract from that fact.

@Barbarian772 no, GTP is not more “intelligent” than any human being, just like a calculator is not more “intelligent” than any human being — even if it can perform certain specific operations faster.

Since you used the term “intelligent” though, I would ask for your definition of what it means? Ideally one that excludes calculators but includes human beings. Without such clear definition, this is, again, just hand-waving.

I wrote about it in a bit longer form:
https://rys.io/en/165.html

@ElectronSoup @borari @Spitfire that’s just mathwashing:
https://www.mathwashing.com/

The tool cannot be liable itself, obviously, but the creators of the tool and those who wield it absolutely can, depending on specific circumstances.

The “AI” does not “create independently”. Just like a script with some randomness built in does not “create independently”. Somebody designed and built the tool, somebody decided what training data to use, somebody decided to deploy it. These people are liable.

@vfrmedia @technology yup. It’s ActivityPub all the way down.

@federico3 you can bet kbin.social is being hammered with insane traffic. Reddit about Kbin migration got banned and then un-banned, so Streisand effect iis at work.

There are other Kbin instances, though there are not many of them:
https://the-federation.info/platform/184

So people need to start setting up Kbin instances to spread the load. 🙂

@technology

@ContrarianTrail

> A chess engine is intelligent in one thing: playing chess

No. That’s not how the adjective “intelligent” works, outside of marketing drivel of course (“intelligent washing machine” etc).

> Artificial General Intelligence (AGI) is the artificial version of human cognitive capabilities

Can you give a definition of “intelligence” or “human cognitive abilities” that would allow us to somehow unequivocably establish that “X is intelligent” or “X has human cognitive abilities”?

@Mysteriarch @fer0n fool me once, shame on you; but go right ahead and fool me twice or thrice, why not!

@ContrarianTrail @JRepin well I guess somebody would first need to clearly define what “AGI” is. Currently it’s just “whatever the techbro hypers want it to be”.

And then there’s the matter (ha!) of your assumption that we understand all laws of physics necessary that “matter obeys”, or that we can reasonably understand them. That’s a pretty strong assumption: individual human minds are pretty limited and communication adds overhead, and we might reach a point where we’re stuck.

@Marsupial you might want to read up on Luddites. Here’s a good place to start:
https://www.techwontsave.us/episode/187_the_real_history_of_the_luddites_w_brian_merchant

@MayonnaiseArch