I’m sorry for the confusion, but my definition is not whether the government does something. There are nationalized industries which are still governed entirely by exchange value and not at all by use value.

You are absolutely correct that markets != capitalism. I was not trying to make that argument.

I’m glad you like it! I have another one on my profile for the USSR.

That being said, I do agree that economic systems can co-exist with each other, but in a struggle for dominance that is

That’s what I’m saying and what Marx is saying in the first volume of Capital. Societies can have one mode that predominates but they still have multiple modes.

Regarding the UK, the NHS was almost fully de-commodified at its height. Public schools in many countries operate entirely de-commodified as well (with obvious expections). In modern Cuba the healthcare still works this way, as does the entire education system. This is a sector of the economy that is communist. Many FLOSS software projects are also part of the communist sector as well. Almost no society has a single mode of production. They are, for clear reasons as you pointed out, under attack. The dialectic will be in motion until its resolved. And I call that period of transition “socialism”. I know some take issue with this term.

Thanks for your reply.

All good points!
I think that in many socialist sectors there is a focus on use value for sure, but exchange value is still there in many ways. The USSR had plans but they were monetary plans, for example. At its height, Gosplan only planned around 10k goods in an economy of almost 2 million. Clearly it’s not purely capitalist, but there are still exchange value determinations there (it’s in transition) because these firms were producing things to be sold (though not ALL of what they did was for this).

Maybe this is just semantics over the term “socialism”. It did, afterall, change definitions after the first successful revolution (the USSR). I hope my definition made clear what I meant by this. I don’t think the exact definition of socialism effects the idea that there are industries where production and distribution are not entirely determined by exchange value but in a dialectic with use value.

I am of course simplifying but I just wanted to share a nice synthesis that helped us avoid infighting. Thanks for your reply.

Thanks!

Also the image is a wallpaper I made of Cuba. I hope you all enjoy.

I’m not too familiar with Deng. Could you explain more of his geo-politics? Thanks in advance comrade.

Is Resolution 5 really about voting for Biden?
Is there somewhere CPUSA defines their “broad front”?

I live outside the US so I’m not up to date on American politics?

This video is good because it goes over the history of Japan right after WWII when the whole regime was being set up. Kishi and the criminal gangs and all the rest.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aSmIT3ov0wA