@Bicyclejohn
> my peers are too tiktok obsessed

What is it that attracts them to TikTok? The features and user experience, or the pool of people and content they can find there? Or something else?

@lackthought
> I was just looking at Matrix, are there community servers like on discord people can join? or is it all private rooms?

There are loads of public rooms on matrix, eg:
https://matrix.to/#/#fediverse-city:matrix.org

FYI what Discord calls a “server” is actually just a group of chat channels and their pool of members. The equivalent of a Discord “server” on matrix is a “Space”. This blog post is a couple of years old out-of-date, but it gives you the general idea:

https://matrix.org/blog/2021/05/17/the-matrix-space-beta/

@hiajen

@itadakimasu
> there’s only 60k of us? And that’s a good thing?

A centralised platform is a numbers game. The money for upgrading servers for growth has to come from one company, and if the platform shrinks it gets harder to get a return on that spending.

It just doesn’t matter as much in a federated network. The cost of growth is spread across many servers. Some of which will end up shutting down, for a range of reasons. But others have room for growth.

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@Blaze @Kushan @patatahooligan

@knighthawk0811
> since there isn’t any strong way to collect data or advertise it will always be an underdog compared to big business

… unless and until democratic governments ban corporations from spying on the people using their platforms, as they bloody well ought to, if they have any respect for the human rights of the citizens. Or pass laws that force the Walled Gardens to federate with similar platforms, like the Digital Markets Act.

@Bicyclejohn

@knighthawk0811
> can we get young people coming here though

That’s a very good question to ask a young person. OTTOMH though…

… anything they have to use at school, they’re unlikely to use by choice at home or elsewhere. What would have got me to join the fediverse if it existed when I was a young person? Hearing that someone I respected had joined like Upper Hutt Posse, or Michael Franti, or RATM, or even David Bowie. Pop poets are the vanguard party of the young.

@Bicyclejohn

@DaisyLee
> What are the best fediverse alternative to the big sites on the web?

Which ones are the best is a matter of taste, but this page gives you an idea which of the corporate DataFarms the various fedi apps can be a replacement for:

https://joinfediverse.wiki/What_are_Fediverse_projects%3F/Fancy

@theory
> Is there a good fedi or p2p alternative to twitch?

#OwnCast was designed specifically for this:

https://owncast.online/

#PeerTube also has livestreaming capabilities, as well as being able to host recordings of livestreams for future playback after they’re over:

https://joinpeertube.org/

There’s also #GreatApe, which is entering beta and looking for testers:

https://calckey.social/notes/9f468lwk06

#video #LiveStreaming

@itadakimasu
Plus, the Lemmy servers are part of a much larger network; the fediverse. Not just other forum apps like KBin either. Right now I’m replying to this from Mastodon.

I have an alt on a .nz Lemmy server, but haven’t got into the habit of using it yet. So at least some of the perceived shrinkage *is* due to that, rather than any failure of the network. Also due to spam and troll accounts being purged.

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@Blaze @Kushan @patatahooligan

@realcaseyrollins
> Reddit was already toxic, but I guess now people will begin to recognize its toxicity

… just like Titter.

@Alkalyon @Bicyclejohn

@yogthos
> An open source/self hosted and federated Tik-Tok alternative, made by pixelfed has just successfully tested federation.

The loops.video announcement by @dansup is here;

https://mastodon.social/@dansup/112569573022384441