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Haven’t you been told that we don’t talk about that kind of oppression here? Everyone knows that mistreatment of humans is bad, but mistreatment of animals is just how things are supposed to be. They are just lesser beings after all, and such kind of thinking hasn’t lead to anything bad in history, so it’s not at all problematic.

Progressivism is about fighting oppression when it suits you, and meat is just soo convenient. The mega corps promised that nothing bad is happening there, so praise the factory farms!

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You make a good point but equating mistreatment of different humans with mistreatment of a different species entirely is a false equivalence.

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Found the speciesist

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Yeah. There are demonstrable and fundamental differences between species, so they should be treated differently.

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I wouldn’t say they’re equivalent. Obviously beating a fly isn’t as bad as beating a dog or a pig. But is beating a human much worse than beating a dog? For me it comes down to capacity to suffer I guess.

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That’s much more reasonable. I think I’d agree.

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Your sarcasm is so subtle that it took me a while to understand. Thanks for chiming in. I dont get why people downvote me for saying animals should be treated fairly (yes, as fairly as humans).

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Perceived ad-hominem from your quote which implies that you are racist and sexist if you eat meat.

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No, you’re speciest if you eat animals. And that’s just as bad as being sexist or racist

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My first instinct is to make another joke and say “So a warped perception? They should get that checked. Might be something serious.” but everyone would probably hate me even more for it.

The idea I had was that “exploitation” is the issue. Imho the reason why we shouldnt kill and eat other humans is because our society would seize to function and humans I assume dont taste good, not because its less ethical than killing an animal. if you have to kill to survive, I assume thats not exploitation. I dont even take issue with eating meat for nutrient reasons every now and then. I take issue with keeping animals in small pens for a short and miserable life and feel no shame at all about it. Thats what I find disgusting. And it translates to other humans (immigrants, disabled, mentally ill, women, etc.). Thats why I say we should change our view of that.

Does it make sense now?

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That’s probably because you criticized their behavior (in a rather provocative way), which is often perceived as hostile and leads to downvotes.

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I’m autistic so pardon my ignorance but when did I criticize anyone? I literally said An thats why I support anti speciesism. and llinked an article and quoted it. You know, the thing that therapists show you: lead by example, send “me” messages as in say what you (would) do instead of criticizing the behavior of someone else. I’m genuinely baffled. Can you elaborate?

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Lol people coping with cognitive dissonance via downvoting

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