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I will say that the union at the St. Louis side was pretty decent from what I could tell when I was there, granted I was an engineer on the outside looking in. Still, agree with you that just replacing these couple of leaders isn’t going to change anything overall, the entire executive leadership are full of MBA’s that only care about EVM and I had a few arguments about doing the right thing vs the cheap thing.

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CEOs have cliques now. When we replace one a new fleet of fucking VPs come with them. They don’t fire all of the old ones, either.

It’s maddening. You still in aerospace?

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Yup, they’re all still run by freaking bean counters, even if they were previously engineers. Despite all of the issues, yeah, I’m still in the industry, I really do love the puzzle that is aerospace and hardware.

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I mean I’m a union member and it isn’t much better. There’s a lot of talk but nobody seems to actually care.

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You have to explicitly pay people to care. And incentivise(not work them to death ie) them not to get complacent

Edit. This is meant as commentary not a disagreement or an argument

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Lmao. I’m talking about management and union officials.

I get paid insanely well for my area. Our insurance is fucking top tier. Doctor? 20. Hospital? 150. 10k infusion? 15. Deductible? Haven’t touched it in twelve years. We do well, and people don’t care. Management is shit, which helps none.

Corporate incentives are just not set up for quality. They treat employees like they’re unimportant and replaceable. Pay isn’t everything.

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