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Many sports have two divisions: Open and Womens. This even includes ones like Chess and various e-sports. The NFL, NBA, and MLB all allow women, or at least have no rule banning them (In the former two cases, ever, in the latter, any more, the 1952 ban was rescinded in the 90โ€™s.)

So to answer your question: Everyone can already compete in one division.

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The NFL, NBA, and MLB all allow women

They may technically allow them, but do you think most women, even very skilled ones, would want to face the abuse they would get from players, coaches and fans if they decided to do it?

Just because it is allowed doesnโ€™t mean it wouldnโ€™t be a major hardship. And I think the vast majority of women in sports are smart enough to understand that is what they would face.

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Replace women with black people and your argument sounds exactly like the enlightened individuals arguing that baseball shouldnโ€™t be integrated even if there were black men out there good enough to play ball with white men.

Jackie Robinson absolutely understood that he would face unyielding discrimination. So did the flood of black ballplayers that followed him in the years to come. Hardship didnโ€™t deter any of them.

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Right, but no women? Not one since the introduction of the rule? Iโ€™ve know many female athletes and all of them would and could handle the abuse if they wanted to compete with male athletes.

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Agreed honestly, the division of any thing by gender seems out of date these days. Go based on skill, age, or weight/height, somethingโ€ฆ just leave gender out of it.

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Oh thank you. I needed a laugh, there is always someone that has to go full triggered keyboard warrior in these threads. Bunch of comments, all of them intentionally ignorant, purposefully bad faith and I suspect you just LOVE feeling like the only smart person in the world.

Well, you are being a downvoted for a reason. And that is most people are bored of these little edgelord takes. But good on you for keeping sticking to your guns in the face of context, reason and public mockery, you sure are โ€œbraveโ€ for being the only person with โ€œthe truthโ€, pity not everything brave is also smart.

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Then youโ€™d have people cry because most men would dominate most of those sports, leaving most women in the dust and with no chance of winning them.

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Really wow i never though of this is suprising nobody has complained about this in womens leagues yet?

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Ding ding ding

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So why have womens sports then why not just let everyone compete in one division?

Because that would be the end of female athletes.

Same reason weight classes exist in some sports. Put a featherweight against a heavyweight of similar fitness and experience and it would be terribly boring and no one would care.

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And having competitors with insane testosterone counts wonโ€™t end โ€œfemaleโ€ sports?

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Huh?

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Who has insane testosterone counts? Most trans women have <1nmol/L. The boundary at the olympic level is 10nmol/L

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Trans women have been competing in female sports for years and years, before 2016 and 2018 rule changes with regards to T levels (that no trans woman will have trouble meeting since their actual T level requirement is super high anyway) How come it wasnโ€™t the end then?

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Because there werenโ€™t many of them. No one thinks any random trans woman is going to destroy all biological women. Thatโ€™s just not the way it works. For example, 100% of female athletes would destroy my fat male ass in just about any sport.

But weโ€™ve already seen specific sports dominated by specific trans women. Indoor cycling (Rachel McKinnon) and MMA (Fallon Fox) come to top of mind. Weโ€™ve seen amateur male powerlifters throw on a wig and call themselves a woman and smash olympic records in womenโ€™s sports.

As trans women in general as well as trans women in sports becomes more and more accepted, that will continue to happen, until womenโ€™s sports are ended altogether.

Simply put, if you deny that men are overwhelmingly better than women at sports, youโ€™re putting feelings over facts. And only the feelings of one small group and ignoring the feelings of a much larger group.

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We if we have people who are men in all but name competing in womens sports that wont kill female athletes? There are undenyable differences when it comes to sport and i doubt trans athletes are getting surgery to change their bone structure are they? Either eliminate all female athletes and let trans athletes compete as women or dont u cant have both its called doublethink.

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