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The thing youā€™re not accounting for is that work that primarily involves thought, which is what ā€œoffice dronesā€ are doing

Found the office drone.

Our office drones are not ā€œthinkingā€ for half the day like you, and input and manipulate data. You could also include half these ā€œmanagersā€ too who sit in an office sending emails all day, and never hit the shop floor.

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Given that office drone would cover any job that isnā€™t service, manufacturing or laborer, itā€™s not exactly surprising that youā€™d find one. Iā€™m a software developer.

Itā€™s almost always best to assume that other peopleā€™s jobs actually take some form of skill, because they always do. People get paid for a reason. Otherwise you fall into the trap of calling huge swaths of work ā€œunskilled laborā€ and thinking they donā€™t deserve much pay, just because theyā€™re just moving stuff around on the shop floor.

What do you think those emails the managers are sending are, if not work?

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You donā€™t understand though, because itā€™s not physical (software of any kind) and even if it is (any hardware) because you arenā€™t constantly doing something itā€™s not work!!

As an admin who got push back from the sales team, everyone hasā€¦ Unique perspectives on what is and isnā€™t work.

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A software developer!? On Lemmy!? Say it ainā€™t so

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The old; how do you know someone is a software developer? Yup, they tell ya!

I think I really touched a nerve with that guy though, and it seems like they want to be an office drone instead of working from home (this is the bit where the ā€œsenior software devs + team managerā€ argue they need to collaborate, in person) with a nice life balance.

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I know exactly what those emails are because I have to deal with them asking me if a wagon that Iā€™m looking at has arrived yet.

So I email them back telling them that itā€™s arrived (they knew that already because goods-in already updated the checking in sheet) and they get to validate their job somehow by asking me, shit.

Itā€™s quite amazing how they keep their jobs.

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So you can dismiss someoneā€™s job because you, a person whose job it is to look at wagons, got an email you didnā€™t see the point of?

If they have the sheet, why do they need you to work there and look at the wagon at all?

Now, I know your job definitely has more to it than looking at wagons and confirming their existence.
My point is that the person who sent the email does too. Itā€™s rare for a job to actually have no point and no work associated with it.

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Experimental solution proposal:

  • Fire all management. Theyā€™re expensive and exponentially less productive. Their stupid large offices and pricey desks also waste space.

  • (Office) workers collectively do the thing they do without being micro managed and stuffed into pointless meetings.

  • ???

  • Probably profit, actually. But then how would the ā€œin-clubā€ kids reap all the rewards without working? :( :( :(

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I have direct experience with the management that only work days since I work continental hours, so get to see how we run during the night without them.

Like I said, half is probably a number we could run with at my place. Sorry state of affairs.

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If it is so easy to be an office drone, why werenā€™t you able to get a job like that?

Is it maybe because it involves skills you arenā€™t aware of?

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I once worked in an office doing what I described above.

I absolutely hated it stuck in a cubicle, and now work outside with lots of other people grafting, instead of listening to gossiping over the cubicles all day long. Think I lasted 2 months.

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