A district judge in Wisconsin has sided with an 11-year-old trans girl over her use of the girls’ toilets and temporarily blocked school officials from preventing her access.
As a father of two elementary school aged girls, I can tell you that they don’t give a shit. They would rather be supportive of their friend. People who insist on perpetuating outdated concepts of gender roles and modesty are on the wrong side of history.
It is good your daughter’s are good with this. Would be nice if everyone was. But do you think all the girls or even the majority are comfortable that need to use same bathroom if they know someone might be biological male?
When I’m using the restroom, the last thing I care about is which genitals the person in the other stall has. Why would this be a concern?
I am speaking anecdotally, but in my daily interactions at my kids daycamp, my kids views are pretty much on par with the rest of their peers. There’s a boy at their daycamp who likes to wear dresses. He’s treated no differently than any of the other kids. They have unisex bathrooms because the ratio of girls to boys is out of whack, so it makes more sense.
My point is that kids today don’t care. They don’t have the same hangups that we were raised with. And why should they?
Your thought is valid.
But what I wanted to tell you is that based upon my kids, their friends, and other people’s kids that I know and talk to - very VERY few of them give a single fuck about this sort of thing. Like surprisingly few.
It’s refreshing, because it’s truly no big deal.
and even though he’s my friend and I’m the first person he came out to it still feels weird when he walks into the bathroom with me.
That’s a you problem, and it’s up to you to get over.
Shame you’re besmirching the name of Uncle Iroh. He would calmly pour some tea and tell you, “How odd, in that situation, that it is you who needs to grow a pair.”
I don’t see any detriment to giving trans people their own space where they can be comfortable and let everyone else be comfortable too
I am confident you don’t realize the full implications of what you’re saying, so please don’t take this as an attack, but would you also support “black only” restrooms for this exact same reason? If not, why not?
I think the point is that the kids don’t care and the only people complaining are the adults who don’t feel completely comfortable.
You don’t see a problem with needing to build a 3rd bathroom in every place that only has 2 bathrooms, and would single out those who use it as an “other” to anyone seeing them use it?
You know what happens when I’m uncomfortable about something? I try and look at why. If I feel that the reasons are because of my own personal insecurities and triggers, I try and deconstruct them and find reasons and solutions to them. What I don’t do is project those insecurities on others, and force them to conform to my point of view.
and even though he’s my friend and I’m the first person he came out to it still feels weird when he walks into the bathroom with me.
Why? What kind of “weird”?
I don’t see any detriment to giving trans people their own space where they can be comfortable and let everyone else be comfortable too.
They don’t want to feel different and “other” though, which a separate bathroom would absolutely do. The kids don’t care, the kids don’t have your old school hangups. So let’s not breed new hangups, let’s let the old ones die.
As to sports, we get to decide how things are organized. Sports rules aren’t handed down from on high. We can change the sorting of genders to make it fair and inclusive. We can experiment with different ways of sorting until we find that correct balance. We don’t have to cling to the old ways just because it’s what we’re uses to.
My teenage kid said, when presented with an lgbtq+ issue, “That’s a your generations problem. Grow up.”
So you think we should ignore the concerns of less confident girls and boys that are uncomfortable with it?
The kids don’t give a fuck. It’s the backwards parents who can’t get their mind out of the dark ages that are ‘uncomfortable’.
Can u honestly imagine being incensed by a fellow human being going to the bathroom? It’s ludicrous.
Wouldn’t it be choosing the bathroom?
I don’t think people would be ‘incensed’ if this person went to the boy’s room.
Should make sure to have separate drinking fountains, too, just to be safe.
You have to be trolling at this point, he alley-ooped it and you dunked the on yourself 💀
The 11 year old girl the judge sided with is one of the “little girls being uncomfortable with it”.
Right click “new private window”.
This discomfort usually comes up if you expect a trans kid (most likely trans girl) to show their genitals (usually a dick) to you or your kids. That does not happen. This is what conservatives want you to think though when they ban trans kids (or even trans people of all ages) from using the toilet matching their gender.
This doesn’t happen because most of the time trans people are not comfortable with their genitals anyway. But even if they are: They don’t show their genitals because they want to take a dump in the toilet.
Besides: I find the confidence of conservatives truly remarkable that they think that a trans woman will go around and show them their dick. Conservatism is not sexy for us at all, nevermind sexy enough that we get naked on the spot.
You know what is sexy enough to make us undress on the spot? Consent! There’s nothing more sexy than a consenting partner!
Also what dismalnow said.
I’m honestly really fucking disappointed someone would take the username uncle_iroh and just use it to be a malignant cunt.
In what fucking world do you live in where anything he just said would justify being a “malignant cunt”. Happy to see this place is just reddit 2.0.
If you dont like it you could always leave instead of being a lil bitch about it.
I’m a cisgender male and would much rather take a shit in a stall next to a dude with a pussy and a beard than take a piss at a urinal next to a woman with a dick, and I think women would probably rather take a piss next to someone who looks like a woman than next to someone who looks like a man. As long as the transgender person in question is dressed as their identified gender then I highly doubt any reasonable person will give a shit about their presence in the bathroom, unless women like to inspect eachother’s genitals in there or something.
Exactly what is dressed as their gender require? Are you suggesting transgender girl has to wear a dress or makeup or some defining cloth? If she decides to come to school in jeans and button shirt she must use the boys bathroom that day?
Exactly what is dressed as their gender require?
That they dress how you’d expect their gender to dress
Are you suggesting transgender girl has to wear a dress or makeup or some defining cloth?
As long as women look like women and men look like men in the bathrooms, I won’t bat an eye
If she decides to come to school in jeans and button shirt she must use the boys bathroom that day?
This ain’t 1953, women are allowed to wear jeans and shirts now. I just don’t wanna take a piss next to someone who looks like a woman, is that too much to ask?
