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How do babys survive? They can not hunt nor forage. Even more so we have remains of a person with Down sydrom who died in his mid 20s having been unable to walk on two legs for at least a decade before he died. So clearly unable to surive on his own. Also hunter gathers ususally work 15 hours a week. At least modern ones do that. Agriculture is able to provide food for more people, but tends to do so with a lot more work until relativly recently

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The Problem with things, like the 15 hour per week claim, is that work isn’t comparable in different forms of society.

The article for example never specified, what it defines as work. Is only the time spent hunting or foraging ‘work’ ?

Is making & maintaining tools work? Is learning a new skill from an elder work? Is experimenting with a new technique work? Is keeping the campfire alive work? Is keeping watch for dangerous animals work? All of which are work in today’s society. Hell, over half of my work week is spent ‘socialising’. Do I only work for 20 hours a week now?

Every article or study, that I know of, that claims that people in the past worked significantly less, fails to specify what it defines as work.

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How many hours a week working on fundamental science, art, entertainment, medicine, engineering, etc. If you drink from the fountain of modern society, you get the benefits and you share the burden of the costs.

Life is unfair. There are no free rides, nor should there be.

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Life is unfair. There are no free rides, nor should there be.

And this attitude is exactly why life is unfair. Doesn’t have to be like this, there’s other ways of organizing societies than “fuck you, I got mine” and not just hypothetically; welfare systems are a thing in many countries you know. Or at least were until relatively recently, thanks to people who think like you.

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Sorry to be the bearer of bad news my dude. I didnt make it this way. I assure you what I think doesn’t amount to squat.

Sitting around and wishing for the good old days is just an insane notion of looking at the past with zero appreciation for the magic of the modern world.

I wish the world was fair, truly. It sucks, but realism feels like a better place to hang my hat.

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I got a master’s of science with a 4.0 GPA and no one will give me a job after months. I did my part. Fuck society.

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Yeah, the big lie. Do what we tell you and it will all work out. Nope. Work + Luck. Society isn’t out to get you, it is just ignorant of you.

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For the abolition of work. Yes really, abolish work! Not “reform work” but the destruction of work as a separate field of human activity.

To save the world, we’re going to have to stop working! — David Graeber

A strange delusion possesses the working classes of the nations where capitalist civilization holds its sway. …the love of work… Instead of opposing this mental aberration, the priests, the economists, and the moralists have cast a sacred halo over work. — Paul Lafargue

In communist society, where nobody has one exclusive sphere of activity but each can become accomplished in any branch he wishes, society regulates the general production and thus makes it possible for me to do one thing today and another tomorrow, to hunt in the morning, fish in the afternoon, rear cattle in the evening, criticise after dinner, just as I have a mind, without ever becoming hunter, fisherman, herdsman or critic. — Karl Marx

In the glorification of ‘work’, in the unwearied talk of the ‘blessing of work’, I see the same covert idea as in the praise of useful impersonal actions: that of fear of everything individual. — Friedrich Nietzsche

If hard work were such a wonderful thing, surely the rich would have kept it all to themselves. — Lane Kirkland

The bottom line is simple: all of us deserve to make the most of our potential as we see fit, to be the masters of our own destinies. Being forced to sell these things away to survive is tragic and humiliating. We don’t have to live like this. ― CrimethInc

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