Zelensky signed several laws on mobilization on April 2, one of which lowered the minimum age of compulsory military service from 27 to 25, making men eligible for the draft from age 25.

The current draft age in the USA is 18-25.

Can’t wait to hear ill-informed critics explain how evil Zelenskyy is for sending children to war

He’s evil for sending people to war who don’t want to go.

Meanwhile isn’t the US drafting at 18+ also?

Yes, it’s 18 here.

I was a bit worried when I saw the headline for that reason. I forgot the US is an outlier with being perfectly OK with sending kids to war before they can legally drink alcohol

It used to be that the draft age was lower than the voting age in many states. There was a constitutional amendment during the US-Vietnam War to drop the voting age to 18 because if you’re old enough to be forced to fight in a war, you’re old enough to have a say in the war.

Used to be if you could go to war you could drink on base, but they took that away years ago.

They can but haven’t since the Vietnam war.

Ah so our active age is what, like 20, 21?

Lol, It’s crazy that people have been misusing terms like Zionist and Nazi so frequently that they’ve lost their inherent meaning.

How exactly does one become both a Zionist and a Nazi?

You’re so propagandized that you are conflating two opposing ideologies.

Can’t wait to hear your amazing logic about how nazism and zionism are incompatible.

Well… The former is fascist state that expanded its holdings by specifically targeting the latter.

Aspects of Zionism (especially modern) can empower a fascist government, however Zionism as a whole started as a response to European racism.

You can only equate the two as the same if you ignore everything up until the 20th century.

What if I look at the theocratic ethno state that exists right now and listen to their leaders openly discuss how they must secure the existence of their people and a future for their jewish children by committing genocide? Cause the seems pretty nazi-like to me.

Zionism is about Jews having land. I wonder, who wanted to give Jews Madagascar? 😲

Nazism is a secular form of fascism , Zionism is a form of theocratic fascism. Biggest funders of Zionism was the third reich

Nazism is a secular form of fascism , Zionism is a form of theocratic fascism.

Both of these claims are highly reductive… Claiming Nazism was secular ignores the complicity of the church’s role in the Nazi party and the Holocaust.

Zionism isn’t a form of fascism, though it can be supported by a fascist government.

Biggest funders of Zionism was the third reich

Zionism has been a thing since the 19th century and continues into the 21st century, the third Reich only lasted 20 years… No the third reich was not the largest funder of the Zionist movement.

Not all bad geopolitical events can be defined as fascist.

Claiming Nazism was secular ignores the complicity of the church’s role in the Nazi party and the Holocaust.

No it doesn’t. Fascism as definition uses what suits them best and what’s give them power, they are opportunists. The church was a good way for them.

Zionism isn’t a form of fascism, though it can be supported by a fascist government.

Hard to be nice colonialists though.

Biggest funders of Zionism was the third reich

Zionism has been a thing since the 19th century and continues into the 21st century, the third Reich only lasted 20 years… No the third reich was not the largest funder of the Zionist movement.

Ok , if you like to split hairs, biggest funders of the state of Israel and it’s colonies at its formation.

Not all bad geopolitical events can be defined as fascist.

True only the fascists ones.

Google generic fascism. And nazi support for Israel.

you people found your angle to attack rhetoric you don’t like.

People who don’t ignore historical context?

comparing Zionists to Nazis is based on their nationalism and commitment to oppression and genocide.

Again, reductive. Based on your own criteria basically every powerful nation today can be accused of being a Nazis.

By that criteria the Han were Nazis when they overthrew the Manchus, the American governments were Nazi when they expanded west. When you lose definitional context, all of history and it’s lessons begin to become opaque.

By just saying any act of colonialism or ethnic violence gets lumped in as Nazism, it redirects the blame from those who committed the acts to generalized ideologies that you associate with the third Reich.

My “woke mind” lmao

In fairness, the US isn’t drafting people, let alone consigning draftees to certain death like Zelensky here is doing. It’s probably my prejudice from the US draft age, but I’m surprised the minimum is so high still in Ukraine considering how desperate they are to field more men.

Obviously the US consigns plenty of people to certain death, but not by drafting them.

I was just kind of shocked that their conscription age was so high considering the US draft age ends at their new low end. When I first read the headline I assumed they were going to start drafting 16 year olds.

Me too, but I’d guess that it’s because Ukraine is a somewhat younger country, since the US stopped using the draft in '73, about two decades before the current Ukrainian government was established, so they are operating on very different standards. Just a guess, though.

WW2 left the Soviet Union without a generation of men which led to all kinds of problems after the war. It’s a lesson hard learnt. Your men need to breed before they go to war and die. Ukraine knows this and hence they keep the draft age higher.

Their demographics are fucked and the largest group of men are middle aged. Weird population age densities were caused by all the bad living in the 90’s.

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