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Vegans don’t see themselves as perfect. It’s all about doing the best you can, where you can

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Which is fair enough and I can respect that. But I have no respect for assholes who think they are better than the rest and keep calling everyone murderer and animal abuser while they claim they can undo 100k+ years of evolution in a single life-time and hypocritically rely on modern medicine to keep them healthy.

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Sorry to continue this on and be the kind of “but…” person.

… But … A lot of vegans I know also try to reduce the amount of medicine they use cause sadly a lot of tablets have lactose in them. It’s genuinely one of the hardest things to deal with as a vegan, because it becomes the argument of do I better my life in spite of my ethics momentarily and it’s never an easy choice either way.

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The way I see it is necessary suffering. There is no such thing as living without accidentally or implicitly causing suffering to someone, somewhere, so the logical response is harm reduction. Eating meat/cheese/eggs is not necessary. You won’t die or become ill if you stop. The calculation is not the same for medicine or food from agriculture generally.

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Just because some vegans are being assholes doesn’t mean you should be an asshole to everyone else and ignore the problem.

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How am I being an asshole? My position from the start was that it’s your own thing to pick and choose what you eat. Am just saying preaching to others and acting smug about it is annoying.

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