Most of the analysis of the Justices’ arguments on Thursday that I’ve read suggests that complete immunity is highly unlikely. To his point about the trial getting delayed and Trump getting elected, that’s a real possibility.
He can still become president with a criminal conviction. He just can’t vote in the election. Isn’t our system swell?
The rationale for this actually makes some sense. You wouldn’t want an incumbent to be able to remove an opponent by railroading them into a minor felony conviction. With the way Trump ran things, if all it took was a minor felony to make sure Biden was ineligible, he absolutely would have pressured the DOJ to find something.
How does that make sense if you’re not allowed to participate in the voting process as a felon? Or do you also think that felons should be eligible to vote?
I’m actually okay with that.
There are too many people with false convictions
You’re ok with a man who has openly conspired with Russia to overthrow the US government being president?
Please tell me that’s not what you meant.
What system is better bro? I mean, what country the size of the United States is doing it the “right way?” India? China?
They won’t come down on the side of presidential immunity because it would basically be saying “Biden senpai please assassinate me uwu”
Just close your eyes and imagine Clarence Thomas saying this. He’s winking and throwing up a peace sign with one foot kicked up in the air. It makes no sense and he will never do this.
They’ll decide against immunity, but after the election. If Biden wins, they won’t want him immune. If Trump wins, he won’t need immunity anymore.
There has to be a middle ground…if charging Presidents for things they did while in office is going to be allowed, this will in no doubt open a can of worms. I can see Republicans going after Obama for things…
I mean if he broke the law and there is enough evidence to get a conviction amongst a jury of his peers then, like, yeah, go for it. I don’t want any president or any citizen to be able to claim immunity just because they held political office for some period of time. Like if you can’t lead the country legally then don’t lead it? Don’t do the crime if you can’t do the time or some platitude.
It’s not just “what he did in office”.
HE TRIED TO OVERTHROW THE MOTHER FUCKING GOVERNMENT TO CLING TO POWER. GET THAT THROUGH YOUR GOD DAMNED HEAD.
I’m sorry, but I am so tired of this argument. He commit fucking treason. That is literally what happened. We are all pretending like it is some nebulous thing, and it isn’t. He is the textbook definition of a fucking traitor.
The Supreme Court will define “treason” by what the constitution says, and Trump does not fall into this category:
“Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort.”
So, unless you:
a.) Recruit and assemble a militia and use it to actively engage in insurrection or
b.) provide aid to a foreign power with whom we are actively in a declared war
He did not recruit all those Trumpsters, they did that stupid shit on their own. He didn’t help the cause, but he did not actively recruit them to attack the government.
My point is that the LEFT is throwing that word around way too much…without really knowing how it’s defined.