What happens in November is up to Biden – it will not be the fault of the protest voter if Trump is elected. The questions remain: does the Democratic party fear Trump as much as we do? And does it value its voters enough to shift away from an approach to the onslaught in Gaza that a majority of Democratic voters are against?

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I’m just tryna vote for the lesser, by far, of two evils. It’s a fucking binary system, you can stomp your feet all you want and still get a genocide and possibly much worse, or you can at least preserve hope for a better future.

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Same but in the mean time I’m going to continue to donate and help push for progressives and those who keep fighting to get rid of the bullshit first past the post voting system and electoral college bullshit.

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It’s reaaaaaaaaaaaaaally simple:

Voting Biden in gives us time to take all this energy we’re mustering up and using it to promote broader, more significant changes. We don’t stop at the election and instead use the next four years to push toward a better tomorrow.

Too many people are stopping at Trump v. Biden. Too many more are stopping at Them v “The System”.

Change takes time. When you vote for Biden, you vote to reset the clock, and then it’s time for all of us to get to work.

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Exactly. If Trump wins, he will outright BAN the Democratic Party, at worst. We will all either be Republicans, or we will be prisoners. And if that happens, the only group with the means to oppose him and the GOP Fascists is gone. And yes, the DNC absolutely has the means. They have all the tools they need. Now, I will admit that they lack the will to use those tools, but if Trump wins they’ll never get the chance to use them.

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Can you explain how you expect to push for a better tomorrow after Biden is re-elected?

The reason I am reluctant to vote for Biden is that he is supporting genocide. If Biden continues to give away large quantities of child-exploding bombs, and he is still rewarded with reelection, then what leverage will the anti-genocide movement have left?

It seems like if Biden can ignore the anti-genocide movement and still win, then we can expect Biden to keep ignoring for 4 more years.

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Tell me: What do you expect Trump to do?

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Hope for whom? A better future for whom? If personal selfishness outweighs the value of humanity, then we’ve already lost, and the outcome of the election is irrelevant.

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for whom?

The gay and trans people who won’t get murdered? The women who won’t die in abortive childbirth?

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Are there not gay and trans people in Palestine right now? Or is it only American LGBTQIA 🏳️‍🌈 folks that matter?

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Lesser of two evils works when we’re talking about blocking universal healthcare or police reform. When you use that bullshit to justify pulling the lever for genocide, you just don’t care that much about genocide.

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And when you use that justification to enable someone who’s going to increase support of that genocide what does that make you? Sure sounds like you’re supporting more genocide than a Biden voter is.

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It’s like people forgot how many Americans died during the height of the pandemic because T**** is a fucking idiot.

Anyone who is even remotely near the crosshairs of the Christofascists needs to pull their head out of their ass and vote Democrat this election.

The Republicunts don’t care if you think “both sides are bad” if you’re LGBTQ+, atheist, non-Christian, think abortion should be freely available, etc.

Ideals and principles don’t stop bullets or beatings.

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Hey, how about you just work with us this time and then here in four years we will pretend to care about what you wanna do.

That seems to be the Democrat playbook anymore

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You’re standing in a room with two levers. If you pull the left one, five people die. If you pull the right one, ten people die. If you don’t pull one, it’s random, either five or ten people die.

So if you choose not to pull, and ten people die, would you feel guilty for the five additional people? You could have prevented their deaths.

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Don’t bother. Those kind of ppl never accept responsibility for their actions so the trolley problem is irrelevant to them.

They’re just virtue signalling to reduce Biden s support.

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Ooh, I love thought experiments! You’re in an auditorium. There are three stages. On one stage, a man is guilotining one child every ten minutes. He cries into his handkerchief. On another stage, a man is gleefully guilotining one child every ten minutes and periodically kicking a dog. Both men get loud applause from different sides of the auditorium. On the third stage, almost completely unnoticed by the crowd, Jill Stein juggles bowling pins while tossing candy to kids. A vote will be taken to see who stays on stage.

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