I’m Jewish and have been told very angrily that I killed Jesus more than once. It’s fun.

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This is patently false and easily disprovable with a cursory google. Please do not spread misinformation.

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Prove it instead of casting doubt.

You’re the wrong party here, your search will prove it.

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Historical Jesus:

Virtually all scholars of antiquity accept that Jesus was a historical figure, and the idea that Jesus was a mythical figure has been consistently rejected by the scholarly consensus as a fringe theory.

Scholars differ about the beliefs and teachings of Jesus as well as the accuracy of the biblical accounts, with only two events being supported by nearly universal scholarly consensus: Jesus was baptized and Jesus was crucified

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So…

  • A preacher lived around that time.
  • His name was ridiculously common.
  • He was baptized.
  • He was crucified.

Notably NOT:

  • He was born of a Virgin.
  • He was the son of a supernatural deity.
  • He performed supernatural acts.
  • He was resurrected.

To call this “Historical Jesus” is misleading at best. It is reasonable to say DOZENS of people fit that description.

Let’s try the same argument today… “A preacher named John was baptized and later was convicted of serious crimes and sentenced by a judge.” How many fit this description? Isn’t it more likely true than false? What does that prove?

This whole argument tries to equate mundane statistics with miracles. It adds nothing to any reasonable discussion outside of post-hoc theological justification.

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Check the talk page on that (and similar) articles. There are some very zealous editors making sure that they come down harder than the sources really support on the “everyone definitely agrees that he existed” side of the argument…

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I asked for you to provide some kind of proof.

You provided a statement that scholars have faith.

I am being serious here, where is the contemporary record of Jesus existing?

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However, Tacitus does not reveal the source of his information. There are several hypotheses as to what sources he may have used.

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Tacitus mentions Christian’s and their namesake. He mentions Pontus.

He does not mention these things together as a cohesive event.

He is writing about something else.

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