1. The Marvels (Disney/Marvel)
    • Budget: $219.8 million
    • Box office: $206.1 million
    • Net loss: -$237 million
  2. The Flash (Warner Bros./DC)
    • Budget: $220 million
    • Box office: $271.3 million
    • Net loss: -$155 million
  3. Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny (Disney/Lucasfilm)
    • Budget: $387 million
    • Box office: $384 million
    • Net loss: -$143 million
  4. Wish (Disney)
    • Budget: $200 million
    • Box office: $254.9 million
    • Net loss: -$131 million
  5. Haunted Mansion (Disney)
    • Budget: $150 million
    • Box office: $147.5 million
    • Net loss: -$117 million
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44 points

When you use the word ‘Woke’, It makes it sound like you’re trying to insult something but don’t actually have something to critique. Which then implies your whole statement is based on nothing.

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I always ask the difference between a “woke” movie and a regular bad movie, and there’s always some conspiracy about the “agenda”.

No, it’s the same soulless Hollywood pandering it’s always been, you’re just no longer the target audience.

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Pardon me if I’m using a derogatory term in an incorrect way, english is not my 1st language. With Woke, I wanted to convey the message of Disney shoehorning girl power in a forceful or artificial way. In contrast to for example all Alien movies where it works perfectly. I don’t mean that women should not be protagonists at all. Sorry if that’s how my post reads like. Maybe I should have worded it better.

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Just be aware that “woke” is a very charged term. It has been hijacked by the alt-right to critique anything they say that’s going against their conservative values. It is so vague that even alt-right pundits fail to define what the word means. It basically translates to “I’m out of touch and I don’t like this”.

The word you might want to use instead is “pandering” which Hollywood (and mass media in general) has been doing it since forever. Basically it’s insincerely showing support for some values just for the money. Which Disney has and is very much doing here being. But the alt-right will throw that label on genuine actions and media simply because it goes against their worldview and it becomes very inconsistent (e…g, strong super-agent man fantasy fine, strong super-agent woman fantasy is “woke”).

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THIS!

Insincerely showing support for some values just for the money.

This is what I wanted to say. Almost everything Disney does is fake, and it shows.

Thank you, I was feeling weird thinking… “Why does this community think The Marvels is not fake? Am I wrong?”

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Did you see the movie? Or are you going off what some chucklefuck said on Truth Social?

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I’m not a right wing extremist, sorry for wording my post. But I stand by my mistake, that’s why I won’t edit my post. I saw the movie on D+, and I thought everything about it was fake. The Xmen movies had almost all the same ingredients, and while some of them where better than others, all of them felt honest to me. I didn’t feel like they were riding on values in order to sell. The Marvels just felt artificial to me.

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