I’ve been trying to make people aware of Lemmy on discord and Mastodon, but it’s always met with resistance citing “the devs are pro authoritarianism tankies.” Kbin seems to be picking up steam because of the developer baggage.
Do you feel like this negative perception will hamstring Lemmy’s growth?
I mean, you used that reference because you are implying that shutting down those pro-capitalist counter-revolutions by literal fascists using force was a bad thing, that’s why you said “leftists supporting authoritarianism while claiming to be leftist”.
You’re just demonstrating that you have never actually engaged with learning about any of these events. You have the vagueist knowledge about them and only understand them within the lens of “tankies bad” instead of what actually happened during those events, why certain decisions were made, and what we have learned in the decades since they occurred that proved the supporters to be on the right side of the decisions.
No I never implied that at all (that’d be like linking the history of the word Yankee would imply that I support the British rule of the American colonies), I said here is the history of the word, which does have that history. I’m not a fan of all the shit the US does, especially the CIA. I actually never implied one thing or another besides saying where the word came from and what it’s evolved into today. I honestly have no opinion on the origin of the word, but what it’s used for today is perfect. It even fits perfectly to evoke images of the Tiananmen Square protests, which when I heard it originally is what I would have assumed it meant. Honestly getting so bent out of shape about this word is just odd to me, if you support this stuff wear it. Quit picking teams in your politics, seriously the whole “but actually the killing of those people was good because my favorite government did it” gets old whether it comes from the US or China
Of course you implied that - you WROTE IT.
You are now backtracking instead of admitting wrong, what you should be saying “you know what, you’re right I actually don’t know anything about it but I regurgitate this because I’ve seen other anti-communists regurgitate a thousand times with literally no opposition so I’ve never taken any time to properly examine events, learn about them, or critically analyse whether the accusations have weight or not”… A response that would be mature, laudable, and the sign of a person who actually wants to grow as a human being. Instead what you seem to be doing is deflecting from this and trying to segue into something else. I am asking you to properly learn about this specific event first, if you want to talk about other events then I am fine with doing that… But one at a time. This practice of bombarding people with dozens of different things at once is called Gish Gallop as is a tactic used in bad-faith to avoid any real critical engagement with the events.
And this is why people hate talking to tankies on the internet, you constantly rely on whataboutism and twisting everyone’s words. I’ve never even said I’m anti-communist ever, literally just said that I don’t support the actions taken by China and Russia when it comes to killing innocent people. I even said in my first comment I’m leftist, it’s fine though, you really should read that Gish Gallop article you linked better.
