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States can establish religions. Federal government can’t.

Over the last 150 years, the Supreme Court has pretty consistently found that the Bill of Rights applies to state as well as federal government: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incorporation_of_the_Bill_of_Rights

See especially https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Everson_v._Board_of_Education:

Everson v. Board of Education … was a landmark decision of the United States Supreme Court that applied the Establishment Clause of the First Amendment to state law.

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Mandatory “one nation under god” pledge in school classes disagrees that religion cannot be established.

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The pledge isn’t mandatory. By law, it has to be optional. Schools have gotten in trouble over it.

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Don’t bother. Every time you point out they say something that isn’t true, they change the subject.

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There are so many cases of promoting Christianity by the US government, a few cherrypicked cases of “trouble” doesn’t disprove any of this.

  • “As a matter of historical tradition, the words ‘under God’ can no more be expunged from the national consciousness than the words ‘In God We Trust’ from every coin in the land, than the words ‘so help me God’ from every presidential oath since 1789, or than the prayer that has opened every congressional session of legislative business since 1787.” https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pledge_of_Allegiance#Legal_challenges

Also, the US print religious indoctrination on their currency: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/In_God_We_Trust

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Its also said “with liberty and justice for all” during a time where people kept literal slaves, without a hint of irony.

The wording far too inconsistent and vague to be taken as literally as you’re attempting to take them.

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