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If no real child is involved in any way, who is hurt?

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For now, if you read the article, it states that he shared the pictures to form like minded groups where they got emboldened and could support each other and legitimize/normalize their perverted thoughts. How about no thanks.

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wrong comment chain. people weren’t talking about the criminal shithead the article is about but about the scenario of someone using (not csam trained) models to create questionable content (thus it is implied that there would be no victim). we all know that there are bad actors out there, just like there are rapists and murderers. still we dont condemn true crime lovers or rape fetishists until they commit a crime. we could do the same with pedos but somehow we believe hating them into the shadows will stop them somehow from doing criminal stuff?

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Maybe you should focus your energy on normalized things that actually effect kids like banning full contact sports that cause CTE.

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Real children are in training data regardless of if there is csam in the data or not (which there is a high chance there is considering how they get their training data) so real children are involved

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I’ve already stated that I do not support using images of real children in the models. Even if the images are safe/legal, it’s a violation of privacy.

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Nobody is arguing that it’s moral. That’s not the line for government intervention. If it was then the entire private banking system would be in prison.

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