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Meta - No thanks.

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I don’t understand how gamers can so vehemently hate Facebook and Instagram, but salivate so heavily over the Meta Quest. A VR system that explicitly requires you to have a Meta account and will send all of your data up to them. All the same things they claim to hate about FB.

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As one of those gamers, the answer imho is quite simple: Ignoring the awful data practices of Meta, the Quest 2/3 as a product is great. Over the years, my Q2 kept improving, with constant updates, new features and general performance improvements. I just got a Q3, and the technological jump is enormous. Add to that the absolute lack of (affordable) alternatives, and you have an easy choice: recognize that Meta has done more for the VR space than anyone else, or don’t do VR.

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I mean they’re a mega corp willing to lose billions upon billions to own the market. That none of their competitors are willing to bleed money like that isn’t surprising, and buying into such an obviously poisoned platform is not a good idea for the future of the industry unless you want it to be owned by Meta.

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There aren’t many viable alternatives, so I do understand it. Valve Index is probably the most free but it’s expensive and starting to become out of date. The Reverb G2 will get no further updates in 2025, and will require you to stay on an old version of Windows (and using Windows in general isn’t great from a data privacy perspective). Any of the remaining alternatives are expensive and/or very niche.

It sucks, and I hope Valve does come out with the rumoured Deckard headset, because we need something that is well supported and not tied to the whims of Facebook or Microsoft.

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As usual, people are not willing to give something up to stick to their ideals. They may bitch and moan but when asked to not buy a quest, it’s too much of a sacrifice. :)

People don’t even change their browser from Chrome because Google say it’s faster (since the only thing where Google can compete is speed - they can’t compete on privacy).

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Correct me if I’m wrong, but aren’t the meta VR headsets by far the best price/performance ones out there. I have barely any experience with VR, but every time I look the other brands are way more expensive.

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You don’t like Zuckypoo?

Society’s mechanisms are far too slow and lack the precision to deal with Mark Zuckerberg — a man that acts with a lack of morality that I find putrid — and the complex machine he’s used to torture humans for profit and power. And as I’ve mentioned before, Mark Zuckerberg can never be fired. We’re stuck with him forever. He can — and will — run this company into the ground.

While Elon musk is a greedy and churlish executive, and a disgusting, shameful man, Mark Zuckerberg is something entirely different. He is far from stupid, and unlike Musk seemingly feels no compulsion for anyone to like him. He craves numerical dominance, at any cost. He must force human beings to use Facebook, and once they are there, he must make them move in the way wishes and do the things he wishes all so that he can see the number go up.

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