The letter says: “We know that high inequality undermines all our social and environmental goals. It corrodes our politics, destroys trust, hamstrings our collective economic prosperity and weakens multilateralism. We also know that without a sharp reduction in inequality, the twin goals of ending poverty and preventing climate breakdown will be in clear conflict.”

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Caveat Emptor: I have not read the article. I am immediately suspicious of most economists because, at least in the US, they have a decidedly conservative bias. Generally US-based economists side with the concerns of the wealthy and promote policies friendly to them which are often at the expense of the poor and working classes.

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I don’t quite see how a reduction in global poverty would hurt poor people though.

In economic terms inequality actually hurts everyone. Recessions last longer, there is more stagnation, more unrest, and interestingly there are effects like worse health outcomes even for the rich in a highly unequal society.

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Because in the long term, their interest is to give up as little as possible to maintain the status quo. They’re not actually interested in the harm that economic inequality causes to poor people, only in walking back from the harm a mass unrest event would potentially cause them.

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If we’re needlessly overthinking, I must point out that by rejecting a call to reduce global inequality because you suspect it doesn’t go far enough…you’re siding with / helping the people who DON’T want to reduce global inequality.

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Well, Thomas Piketty is one of the signatories, so…

The thing is though that there has been a massive shift in the last decade from the old “Establishment” having power, to the phenomenon of Disaster Capitalism.

Disaster capitalists thrive on things like mass unrest. They will do everything in their power to continue down this track. And right now they have the upper hand.

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Bingo. Pretty much any non-Marxist economists will favor “the market” over workers. Neoliberalism, the predominant ideology in most western countries, is seen as an alternative to conservatism (very much so in the US), but they’re centrists at best, and conservative-lite at worst.

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Pretty much any non-Marxist economists will favor “the market” over workers.

Just going to point out that “the market” is people’s freedom of choice compounded across society.

Neoliberalism, the predominant ideology in most western countries, is seen as an alternative to conservatism (very much so in the US), but they’re centrists at best, and conservative-lite at worst.

It’s almost like political parties are tied to the values of their voters.

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This is a case of “perfect is the enemy of good”.

This thing was signed by a bunch of non-US economists like Thomas Picketty and people like Helen Clark, a left politician who used to run the UN Development Programme.

Economic neoliberal bias, sure, but what they are proposing is still an order of magnitude better than what we have now.

Edit: I can’t see anything below this in this comment chain, not even my own comments!

Not sure if it’s a kbin bug or if @hglman blocked me. (Is this the effect blocking has in the fediverse? Can you guys still see the rest of the chain?)

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Helen Clark is left LOL

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Pointing out how it can be better is not the enemy of the good; your concern trolling is.

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Exactly. Neo/liberalism is just right-wing feudalism with extra steps. If you allow (let alone encourage) the unmitigated consolidation of wealth (and therefore authority) you will ALWAYS move society rightward. Hence the term “Late-stage Capitalism”.

Economies require trade and incentive to thrive, but there must be limits to how much a person or entity can accrue.

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Does that mean you believe society is now more right leaning then it was 40 years ago?

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Is Lemmy full of communists?

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Is a federated community, run by community members, for the betterment of the community, communist?

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I am not one, won’t speak for anyone else. Economists lie and I don’t trust them.

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Mhm

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The lemmy devs are.

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