From June 1 to June 11, Israeli forces killed over 800 Palestinians and wounded over 2,400 as they carried out bombardments and raids across Gaza, Médecins Sans Frontières (MSF) reported. This is an average of over 72 Palestinians killed each day at the hands of Israeli forces.

This includes Israel’s assault of Nuseirat refugee camp on Saturday that killed 274 Palestinians, including 64 children, and injured 698 others, with Israeli forces carrying out one of the most deadly single attacks of their genocidal siege so far in order to retrieve four Israelis held hostage in Gaza. The attack was carried out on a bustling civilian center in the middle of the day, raising questions about whether Israeli forces violated international law.

The 11-day death toll also includes at least 70 Palestinians killed and over 300 wounded due to heavy Israeli shelling in central Gaza on June 4, MSF said; and at least 40 Palestinians killed and 74 wounded on June 6, when Israel bombed a UN school-turned-shelter in Nuseirat. The killings of hundreds of Palestinians in other Israeli attacks, ranging across southern, central and northern Gaza, in the first days of June have otherwise been largely ignored by news outlets, and are hardly documented by official sources.

Behind each death is a horrifying story of a Palestinian who lived through months of displacement, constant bombardment, hunger and likely the loss of family members, bearing witness to the 37,000 people killed by Israel in Gaza over eight months just to themselves be killed by Israeli forces. Survivors recall horrors, like children who recount being pulled out of the rubble of their homes, and the pervading smell of death.

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Is Hamas continuing to hold hostages really worth all of this death?

Hamas is refusing to agree to a ceasefire and release the hostages. So the death an destruction continues. How many more people will die while people far away from the conflict romanticize Hamas as noble “freedom fighters”?

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Because the suffering of the Palestinians is the currency that powers Hamas.

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Yup. The Hamas leaders in Qatar are literally billionaires from all of this. TikTok influencers are also making some serious money from their monetized videos about this. This truthout site linked about pops up asking for donations in front of an image of crying Palestinians.

The suffering of Palestinians is very profitable for a lot of people.

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Hamas did accept the peace deal. And it evaporated. Again. Israel is the one consistently sinking deals. Even to the point of telling Biden they support one and then publicly humiliating him when he announces they’re on board.

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Sure… let me know when Hamas actually agrees to the deal instead of just saying bullshit like “we look upon this positively.”

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Dude.

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Hamas has agreed to a permanent ceasefire and hostage release for months. Israel has refused anything other than a temporary pause, because they want to bomb Gaza regardless

How many more people will die from this violent Apartheid State commiting genocide?

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Where did you hear this from? A website that shows you photos of crying Palestinians with a “donate” popup over it? Or from a monetized TikTok channel?

How many people have to die before people stop sending money to Hamas billionaires in Qatar that profit from the suffering of Palestinians (along with TikTok and many other sites)?

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Where did you hear this from?

Reuters, BBC, AP Newswire, NYT, CNN, NBC, NPR, ABC, MSN, Yahoo, Sports Illustrated, Cat Fancy, the extremely Jewish deli at the corner, and every reputable news source on planet earth is reporting this.

Where are you hearing your news? Did they also try to sell you horse paste, colloidal silver elixir and survival powder?

Your comments are a textbook illustration of how every word uttered by a conservative is deception or manipulation. Never in history has a conservative entered a discussion in good faith. Never.

(Here comes the fake “bUt i’M NoT a CoNsErVaTiVe! cHeCkMaTe dUmMy!” in 3…2…)

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It’s obvious for anyone paying attention to the news. If you check the Ceasefire History, you see it every week.

Oct 9 2023 - Hamas official says group is open to discussions over truce with Israel - Reuters

Oct 16 2023 9:41 AM - Israel denies ceasefire in place to allow entrance of aid to Gaza - Times of Israel

Oct 27 2023 - Hamas official demands ceasefire for hostages to be released - Fox News

Oct 31 2023 - Fighting in Gaza intensifies as Netanyahu rejects calls for cease-fire - CBS

Nov 5 2023 - Israel rejects ceasefire calls as forces set to deepen offensive - Reuters

Nov 14 2023 - Hamas’ armed wing says it is ready to free 70 Israeli hostages in return for a 5-day cease-fire - Business Insider

Nov 23 2023 Temp Ceasefire Begins 24th

Dec 1 2023 Temp Ceasefire Ends

Dec 8 2023 - U.S. vetoes ceasefire demand as UN secretary general warns Gaza ‘at breaking point’ - CBC

Dec 12 2023 1:31 PM - U.N. General Assembly votes in favor of cease-fire resolution 153-10; U.S. and Israel vote against - NBC

Dec 20 2023 - Hamas insists on end to Israel’s offensive in Gaza before hostage talks can begin - The Guardian

Dec 25 2023 - Hamas, Islamic Jihad reject Gaza gov. overhaul for permanent ceasefire, Egyptian sources say - Reuters

Jan 3 2024 - Hamas says there must be a permanent ceasefire deal in order for remaining hostages to be released - CNN

Jan 10 2024 - US defends its veto of call for Gaza cease-fire while Palestinians and others demand fighting stop - AP News

Jan 22 2024 - Hostage talks continue as Israel rejects Hamas demand for full IDF withdrawal and a permanent cease-fire - NBC

Jan 31 2024 - Netanyahu rejects Hamas conditions for ceasefire, refuses to release ‘thousands of terrorists’ - India TV

Feb 7 2024 - Hamas ceasefire proposal details - Reuters

Feb 14 2024 - Gaza cease-fire and hostage release talks appear to stall as Netanyahu and Hamas trade blame - AP News

Feb 20 2024 - US blocks ceasefire call with third UN veto in Israel-Hamas war - Reuters

Mar 6 2024 - Officials say Hamas has continued to press Israel for a commitment to a permanent cease-fire after a multistage release of all hostages, but Israel has refused. - NY Times

Mar 22, 2024 - Why Biden Proposed a UN (temporary) Ceasefire Resolution That Was Vetoed by Russia and China - Time

Apr 3, 2024- Hamas sticking to ceasefire conditions including Israeli Gaza pullout - Reuters

Apr 9, 2024 - Hamas says Israeli proposal fails to meet demands, but is under review - Reuters

Apr 15, 2024 - Hamas Offers Phased Release of Israeli Hostages After Six-week Gaza Cease-fire - Haaretz

Apr 26, 2024 - Hamas ‘serious’ about captives’ release but not without Gaza ceasefire - Al Jazeera

May 4, 2024 - Report: Hamas Accepts Gaza Cease-fire Deal; Israeli Officials Reject Prospect of War Ending - Haaretz

May 7, 2024 - What’s in the three-phase ceasefire deal Hamas backs, but Israel does not? - Reuters

May 15, 2024 - Hamas chief says Israeli amendments on ceasefire proposal led to deadlock - Reuters

May 19, 2024 Why has an Israel-Hamas ceasefire been so elusive? A timeline of key moments in the search for peace - The Conversation

May 31, 2024 - Hamas says it ‘positively’ views Gaza ceasefire proposal set out by Biden - Reuters

June 4, 2024 - Hamas wants Israel to commit to permanent ceasefire, full withdrawal from Gaza - Reuters

June 11, 2024 - UN Security Council adopts a cease-fire resolution aimed at ending Israel-Hamas war in Gaza - AP News

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Hamas is in the right to make sorties and take hostages when besieged.

No they don’t. Taking civilians hostage is an actual war crime according to international law. Deliberately killing people based on their ethnicity is genocide. Which is what Hamas did on October 7.

Because it all happens in the framework of a siege by Israel.

Israel has a right to build a fence on their border. Obviously not a good plan, since the fence wasn’t effective, but they have a right to do that.

Blockades are also legal and defined in the oldest of international law, Maritime Law.

If it’s subjectively beneficial for the state of Israel to wipe out Gaza, and they have plenty of agents in Hamas

If you believe that, then why are you supporting Hamas?

And if it’s a ceasefire, then after it Israel can continue killing as they want, and Hamas won’t have any hostages anymore

Yes they would no longer be committing a war crime. Will Hamas send the people responsible for this war crime to face justice at the ICJ? Or does the ICJ only exist to punish supposed crimes by Israel but Hamas can commit any crime it wants without fear of punishment?

While claiming that Israel is dehumanizing Palestinians you’re dehumanizing Israelis. A lot of people were brutally slaughtered on October 7, and you’re incapable of understanding the repercussions because you don’t think of Israelis as people deserving of life. Seems you’re doing a lot of projection of your tendency to dehumanize others onto other people.

Try to be a better person.

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