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Sorry, I’m trying. Honestly. I’m looking for vegan and vegetarian recipes and while it usually tastes “fine”, it’s mostly just “meh”.

I don’t get the hype for things like lentils or quinoa either. Both are “meh” at best.

So far, I’m unable to find meat-free recipes that truly satisfy me.

And no, I’m not a bad cook.

Tell me your reasonably priced vegan and vegetarian recipes that little children will eat, too. Serious request.

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You need to try a lot “plant-based meat” products. Many of them are meh and taste like meat flavored cardboard, but I’ve personally found some that taste waaaay better than meat.

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Tofu is pretty versatile as a meat replacement or even just a general texture thing. I like to fry small tofu cubes and use them in place of the cheese in palak paneer, or instead of chicken in something like General Tso’s. It takes a bit more work since you have to press the tofu and find a good way to cook it so it doesn’t turn out soggy (and it’s usually more expensive), but I’m a meat eater and it’s satisfying to me.

Beyond/Impossible Meat is also pretty good imo. I actually tend to like it better than real beef, but that’s definitely not a majority opinion. If you like the taste, you can crumble the patties for ground beef texture or break them into chunks for more of a meatball vibe. I’ve even done a sort of faux bulgogi with chunks and gochujang sauce that works surprisingly well.

One more thing I think can help is to not try to replicate meat for everything. There are ways to make vegetarian/vegan food that let it stand on its own and still be satisfying (beans and chickpeas can help a ton), without it feeling like it’s trying too hard to be meat. Things like cauliflower stir fried or batter fried and coated in some sort of sauce can be good just as cauliflower in sauce.

Finally, mushrooms, if you like them. Soaking dried mushrooms will get you stock that can replace chicken or beef stock for most things, and frying even the cheap baby bella mushrooms that come pre washed and sliced can give you a meaty texture in something that needs it.

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We eat tofu every now and then and like it a lot and I did already try out some meat “substitutes” and some of them are actually pretty good, but not cost-effective. I’m not saying I have to look at every cent I spend, but things have gotten harder in recent years, not gonna lie.

I don’t need or want to replicate meat everywhere. I’m totally fine with non-meat dishes, but my complaint is that many of them don’t taste as good as people (especially vegans) claim, even in restaurants. It’s been quite disappointing multiple times to try that “really, really delicious curry”, that in the end didn’t really taste that great and it’s been a recurring thing for me / us when trying to eat more plant-based foods. This is also true with cauliflower, for instance. I like it in “traditional” meals as side-dish, but no, to me, batter frying cauliflower doesn’t make it good.

Mushrooms are a staple in our cooking, because I really like my umami flavor (I also use MSG a lot), but unfortunately, my daughter doesn’t like any type of mushroom. I guess, it’s the texture. Tried several different things and she always puts them away.

Anyway, thank you for your comment. Beyond meat has been on our “try out list” for quite some time.

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Honestly I think the important thing is to just try alternatives. You don’t have to end up liking them or completely replacing meat if it’s not practical, just try to find ways to add more vegetables.

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As a fellow omnivore trying to eat more vegan/vegetarian recipes, I think rainbow plant life on YouTube has the best recipes that I’ve tried. If you’ve read Salt Fat Acid Heat, most/all of her recipes are based on that technique/ideology. Her red lentil curry is really good and I make a double batch about once every other month to keep in the freezer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BHRyfEbhFFU

I live with people that don’t like coconut milk so I just use a mixture of heavy cream and milk. I also sub half of the red lentils for brown lentils for extra fiber.

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Thank you very much for the hint, I checked out the red lentil curry video and it does look quite delicious. Chicken curry is actually my favorite food and I tried green, brown and red lentil curry before, but didn’t quite like them, even though I’m half asian, lol. I’ll try her recipe, though.

I personally love coconut milk.

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Sloppy joe made with lentils is an easy dinner for a night and kids love a sloppy joe

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Seems to be pretty american. I’m from Germany and never had that.

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7 points

Try out Indian cuisine, we got a ton of great vegetarian food here but depending on where you are, getting all the good spices needed could be quite difficult and pricey.

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Honestly. I’m looking for vegan and vegetarian recipes and while it usually tastes “fine”, it’s mostly just “meh”.

If it’s about eating ethically, I highly suggest trying to eat locally instead. It’s much better for the environment, and you can usually get a better nutritional balance.

I mean, if eating “meh” makes you feel good, go for it. Just please make sure to study all the supplements you need and keep researching because there are regularly discoveries that might change the supplement intake you require.

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Transport is a teensy tiny part of the climate/environmental impact for food. In 99.9% of cases, a plant-based food will beat out any meat from next door.

That being said, local in the sense things that actually grow locally and are in season is still a good idea, though more from a community building perspective.

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Transport is a teensy tiny part of the climate/environmental impact for food

Food Transport is estimated to be as high as 3 gigatons tons of CO2 emissions per year, a full 20% of all food-related CO2 emissions. From my point of view (not considering all animal-related CO2 emissions as a single line-item), that makes transport the single largest cause of CO2 related impact in the entirety of agriculture/horticulture.

For context, ALL manure CO2 emissions is only 2.6 gigatons (full disclosure. I lost and re-found this link, and see another source estimates manure closer to 7B. I’m sure you know my thoughts on that. Food Transport is still of dominant significance and fertilizer impact cannot be that effectively reduced). And in many cases, that manure is less harmful to the environment, yes EVEN CO2 impact, than the other fertilizer options that replace it when used in crop farms.

There’s a strong argument for “less meat” being good for the environment, but I am convinced (in part from hands-on experience) that the only arguments for “no meat” being any good are entirely fabricated.

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Sticky tofu is hands down my favorite. Something like this: https://veganonboard.com/sticky-lemon-tofu/

Soy Curls is honestly my favorite ‘meat replacement’ (though, I’m not too hot on ‘replacing meat’). They work for doing things like mongolian beef, or just lightly frying after marinading for ‘chicken strips’ to top salads or sandwiches. https://thevietvegan.com/vegan-mongolian-beef/

Soups are of course, pretty easy. I like Lentil Chilli, heavy on the seasonings and beans aside from lentils. Minestrone or lemon orzo are both also great. Thai curry or pho are both more work imo, but amazing (though, both broth bases can often have chicken or shrimp in them).

Burgers, and while impossible meat et. al. are fine I guess, they’re a bit pricey. I honestly prefer a good chipotle black bean burger over them 9/10 times. They’re pretty cheap to buy, but also not very hard to make, with most of the ingredients being cheap.

I personally like seitan, but I know quite a few other vegetarians don’t, so it might be divisive. BUT, in terms of cheap protein, its damn near rock bottom in price. It is some work to make stuff out of it from scratch, but ‘indian mock duck’ is usually seitan, and can be bought from indian stores if you just want to try it. But seitan works to replace burgers, chicken tenders, steaks, sausage, etc. Tons of recipes out there.

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Thank you very much for all your suggestions. In fact, I even plan to do my first seitan batch today. I’ll follow this video and see how it goes.

I’ll save all your guys suggestions and try them out, thanks again!

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Sorry, trying? Don’t let someone else tell you what to eat. You should not feel bad for eating meat as it is livestock raised to be consumed.

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Hmm. I make the decision myself, nobody is forcing me. I have moral concerns, I care about the environment and I also have health concerns, too.

I’m not sure if I’ll ever be vegetarian or vegan (I’d like to). For now, my goal is to reduce meat intake to one or maybe two times a week.

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Ok, this is going to be long!

I would advice, apart from tying out new recipes, try to look at how you cook rice, make a green salad and tomato based sauce again. Often there are a few basic things one can improve that elevate all other dishes as well. This doesn’t have to be expensive, you save a lot of money by not buying the meat, after all.

(A few of these things you will probably know, but perhaps you learn something new.)

For rice try the following:

  • most children prefer basmati rice and rice with tumeric
  • cumin also tastes good in rice but not all kids like it
  • most types of rice have to be rinsed a few times, a good job for kids lol
  • when you let the rice soak in water (~30 min) after rinsing it, you get more predictable results
  • when you want to fry the rice, use rice you cooked the day before
  • try different rice varieties from different brands because they all tend to need a different amount of water for best results
  • when your family really becomes rice fans invest in a good rice cooker because it saves time and older kids can make their own
  • after cooking, let it steam for a few minutes on the turned-off stove

For a good tomato sauce try the following:

  • diced or crushed tomatoes in cans often have low quality, when using cans use whole peeled tomatoes and cut them when still in the can
  • do not crush garlic, instead chop it very fine
  • use a really good oil, it has to taste so good, you would eat it with bread with nothing else
  • oil is a whole beast, try different types and be careful which of those can be heated to which temperature
  • some finely chopped celery often tastes good in tomato sauce
  • heat very slowly and don’t make it boil, don’t cook too long
  • add sugar to taste, baking soda if it is too acidic
  • add herbs only when the sauce is finished, perhaps add oil again
  • some people think tomato sauce tastes better the next day

Some tips to make your salad better:

  • the oil hint from above
  • for vinegar all the hints for oils apply
  • mix something crunchy into your salad, many kids love sunflower seeds or peanuts, which are less expensive than walnuts and similar
  • when you want roasted sunflower seeds, buy them raw and roast them shortly without oil in the pan until you can smell them
  • wheat grains roasted taste great, they smell amazing as well
  • top your salad with something hot, for example caramelized pear slices or seasoned tofu cubes, marinated fried champignons, etc.
  • get a salad spinner if you don’t have one already
  • some children like vegetables raw they do not eat cooked, for example fine broccoli florets and zucchini slices
  • good mustard or lemon juice on the side

General tips for vegan and vegetarian recipes:

  • a good rule when it has to go fast is: combine grain + green + bean
  • experiment a lot with combinations of textures
  • grating vegetables adds lots of moisture, can be good or bad…
  • roast whole spices without oil until their smells hit you before you cut them and put them into your dishes
  • make your own vegetable broth by freezing clean vegetable scraps (skins and ends) and simmer them when you have a bag full
  • maple syrup + non-dairy milk mixed make a crust on baked goods
  • infuse oil yourself with herbs, chilli, garlic
  • learn to sauté a base of spices, garlic and onions before adding your ingredient
  • learn how to make natto, get used to the taste and then addicted to it
  • now that you are a pro with herbs, make your own fresh tea and experience a new world of taste

Ingredients which you perhaps never used before but are very useful:

  • nutritional yeast !!
  • soak and blend cashews for a versatile cream base
  • Kala Namak
  • liquid smoke
  • miso
  • tamari
  • seaweed
  • the water from chickpea cans is aquafaba
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