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Biden is only like 18mos older than Trump. They’re essentially equally old. Like a 2% difference in their ages.

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Sure, but Trump didn’t sound like he was lost at the grocery store. Most of what Trump said was nonsense he made up on the spot but he said it with confidence. Trump knows his supporters won’t fact check him; Biden is burdened with the truth. It’s not fair but we unfortunately need someone who can spar with Trump on stage. If someone flusters Trump on stage he will spiral out of control.

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Out of two old men, I would prefer a bald man with a stutter who’s burdened by truth, than a bald man who’s such a compulsive liar he can’t remember which lie he told which group.

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32 points

Great could you convince the rest of the nation or are we just taking about you here?

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That wasn’t a stutter.

Describing it as such is such a “Don’t believe your lying eyes” comment that it does more to dissuade people from your viewpoint.

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16 points

Trump sounds like he’s lost all the time. He constantly wanders into deranged tangents. Why do we have to pretend otherwise.

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Not saying he didn’t seem more “with it” or energetic or whatever, but he is basically just as old and makes even more gaffes - but people don’t care because he does it almost non-stop.

There are plenty of people talking about Biden as if he’s the crypt keeper and Trump as if he’s a stunning specimen of youth and vitality, which is just silly.

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What happened is team Trump caught Biden with the drug test business. Trump got a full syringe of Executive Juice and Biden opted out from personal pride or fear there would be a surprise piss test sprung on him.

(I don’t have insider knowledge but this seems pretty likely based on what we all saw)

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16 points

Biden is 5 months short of being 4 years older than trump. Almost an entire presidency. I hate trump also but we have to stop saying Biden isn’t THAT old.

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3 points

They could’ve gone to high school together. Maybe his campaign should just spray paint him orange and yellow too.

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Being in the White House drastically ages the president, VP, and senior staff due to the insane amounts of stress and long hours that come with the job.

It’s not easy.

Biden has been in the WH for 12 years.

trump for four, but he’s too fucking stupid to be worried. So the stress never got to him. If he saw something he didn’t like, he ripped up the paper, tried to eat it, then flushed it. And trump would have 100% forgotten about it immediately.

Which is why they can be essentially the same age (18 months is nothing in your 80s) but Biden seems so much worse. Biden is used to thinking about what to say, trump just opens his mouth and rambles like he always has.

But with all that being said:

We need higher standards to get Dem voters onboard. A bad candidate that’s better than trump is still a bad candidate. We don’t need someone who tries to think of what to say but can’t say it, we need someone that can think of a competent response and then communicate that effectively.

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but Biden seems so much worse

I don’t get this take. Trump has been shouting incoherent word salad and confabulations for years at this point. Biden seems like a decent man who is too old for the job. Trump is a treasonous piece of shit rapist criminal who is also old and senile, and backed by actual fascists who want to take the US back to the dark ages.

I don’t think voting will be enough, they tried a coup once and now they’re being invited to try again since there were no consequences last time.

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Trump has been shouting incoherent word salad and confabulations for years at this point

Exactly…

He’s never put thought into what comes out of his mouth, he just opens it.

So while both are experiencing normal effects of aging, Trump’s never made it a habit to use his frontal lobe, and that’s where this shit hits first.

So there’s no observable difference in his behavior.

Like, imagine you suffered a stroke and lost the ability to ride a bike. If you’re Lance Armstrong it’s a huge deal. If you’re some 80 year old fat fuck who thinks exercise lowers your “battery” it has zero effect on your life because you dont ride a bike.

Biden was pretty unanimously labeled “the greatest modern political orator” back in the 80s. It wasn’t even really debatable.

Seriously, he was at the absolute peak of his game and no one could touch him. But he lost it a long time ago, it didn’t start recently. Look at the 08 debates and he’s more than serviceable still, but already a shadow of his former self.

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Auto-coups are a lot easier than coups of a rival, because you control the police/military that would defend the government and can delay them from responding, like Trump did.

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