Comment by mozz@mbin.grits.dev on Some losses are worth the principle (July 28, 1915)

And a felony on your record for the rest of your life

Do you like landscaping, auto body, and working in a kitchen? You do now, hope you turn out to be good at it.

You need 34 convictions, and two impeachments for that though.

And they gotta be for a proper respectable crime like bribing a porn star

Those jobs should be just as well compensated as any other, if not more because manual labor, the average person can’t fix their own car, and you put it directly into your body.

Fuck the Right and fuck the rich. Pay people well, their time is their time and it’s not owed to you. And fuck the police.

I wasn’t trying to say anything against people who do those jobs or that they shouldn’t be paid. I was saying that having a felony will severely constrain your options going forward in life changing fashion.

That outcome, and also the mistreatment financial and otherwise of the people doing those jobs, are two things we gotta fix.

Is this an American thing? I (French) have never been asked for my police record when applying for a non-government job. Employers don’t check for this.

In America it is almost a universal practice. If you have a criminal record, you might or might not have problems; if you have a felony, you’re fucked for almost every job.

If you want to learn a depressing amount about it, I have heard that the book “The New Jim Crow” makes a pretty compelling argument that the systems of criminal conviction, credit, educational qualifications, rent, bank loans, probation and parole, and what-have-you, have functionally brought back a good amount of the machinery of segregation into the modern era, because it creates effectively a two-tier system with most people who started out poor and a huge majority of minorities stuck into the second system.

Fair, but Everett owns his own business, so he’ll probably be fine.

I believe you, my comment is just saying that the system is fucked at the punitive way society acts after time served and a lack of rehabilitation while serving time does nothing for the person incarcerated, those harmed by the initial crime, and definitely not society as a whole. The only people who benefit are for profit prisons and the judges getting kickbacks from sentencing.

His point is that relatively few employers are willing to hire felons.

Oh, I know what his point is. But time served should remedy all of those things moot. But we don’t have a rehabilitative system or one that cares otherwise. The whole system is beyond unfair to those who need the most care. And that statement applies to so much more than just felony convictions.

A place to appreciate the twentieth century comic character Everett True of “The Outbursts of Everett True.” Feel free to check out the sticky.

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