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The difference is that at the time the fasces were adopted they didn’t mean fascism. But also, coincidentally, the US and France are fascist.
10 points
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And the tryzub didn’t mean fascism when it was firstly adopted by the (menchevik communist) Ukrainian People’s Republic in 1917…
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Okay but it did mean fascism after ww2. You know, after nazi collaborators participated in the holocaust in Ukraine, killing Ukrainian Jewish folks and others.
I dont think the original Ukrainian republic in 1917 was fascist though, we agree there.
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Vichy France of Pétain participated in the Holocaust too. France still use the fasces, the same anthem and the same flag.