The Wisconsin English teacher, Jordan Cernek, argues in the suit that the district violated his freedom of religion and free speech in mandating the use of the students’ preferred names and pronouns.

A high school English teacher is suing a Wisconsin school district, alleging it did not renew his contract last year because he refused to use the preferred names of two transgender students.

Jordan Cernek’s federal lawsuit alleges the Argyle School District violated his constitutional and civil rights to be free of religious discrimination and to be able to express himself according to his religious beliefs when it did not renew his contract because he refused to abide by a requirement that teachers use the names or pronouns requested by students.

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If you’re the teacher of a classroom and it’s not part of your contract to call Timmy as Tim, then little Timmy can go legally change his name to Tim.

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Do you realize how disconnected from reality you sound? Kids’ legal names aren’t as important as you think they are. Honestly, neither are adults’ legal names.

If someone comes up to you (outside of a school) and says their name is Will, do you say you’re only going to call them William? If yes, wow, you are so weird. If not, why does it matter inside of a school and not outside?

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Your teachers seem to have failed you as your reading comprehension is lacking.

In school, a teacher is an employee. It’s their job. Outside of working hours, they’re not an employee. It’s their personal time. Job, personal time, very different things. If you expect them not to be this way, you’re kinda being an asshole towards them as a person.

To take the IT guy as an example. Do you expect to call them outside of their working hours to come fix your internet and call you pet names in the process? If so, wow do I have news for you!

Edit: Talk about disconnected…

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A reading comprehension insult from someone who didn’t even answer my actual question?

Thank Christ you’re just working at a school and not an actual teacher.

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The fact that you think a pet name and a preferred name are the same thing shows how much you understand what you’re talking about.

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In school, a teacher is an employee. It’s their job.

It’s my job, as a teacher, to support my students. I do this by calling them by their preferred name if they ask.

Feel free to complain about that.

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then little Timmy can go legally change his name to Tim.

How I ‘legally changed’ my name:

  1. I told everyone that knew me by my old name what my new name was.

  2. This involved sending letters to places of business I had an account with, e.g. bank and utilities.

 

Do you have to do that for a nickname?

  1. No.

 

So, if Timmy says “I prefer Tim”, is that going against a ‘contract’? Doesn’t seem so.

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Just because Timmy prefers Tim doesn’t mean everyone has to call him Tim. Maybe the other person prefers to call him by the given name.

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It’s not up to someone else what they call me. It’s up to me.

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So the name on your birth certificate is “lath”?

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On Lemmy, I have registered with that nickname and as such I expect it to be used.

Is that so hard to comprehend?

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On Lemmy, I have registered with that nickname and as such I expect it to be used.

Is that so hard to comprehend?

In school, the child asked to be referred to by a name, and as such they expect it to be used.

Is that so hard to comprehend?

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Im so glad you have insight on this. You see, I get a lot of international students in my class and I’ve had to deal with this type of thing a lot. Maybe you can help me out.

Let’s say I have a polish student whose name is “Żółć”, which is somewhat difficult to pronounce in English. After a few failed attempts, he just tells me he prefers “George” because it sounds close enough, he likes that it sounds like English, and is easier for everyone to pronounce. His English-speaking friends call him George as well.

Do I…

  1. Go on and call him George since he prefers it, everybody knows him as that, and move on with the lesson?
  2. Call his parents to request that they have his name legally changed to George so I can use it in the classroom, then butcher his actual name in front of his friends until they do?
  3. Assign him a nick name (not a pet name, because that might be a little weird) “Polish kid” or “Student number 8” so I can call him something easy, be technically correct, and disregard his preferred, yet technically incorrect name?

I could really use some help with this since it happens all the time. Please let me know what you think.

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Learn to pronounce their name. Duh.

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OR, just bear with me…

Call them the name they’d prefer to be called because it’s easier than making a scene and nobody actually gaf.

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I’d give you a picture of a mirror, but you’ll probably think it really is one.

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