you pulled that $25/hr out of your ass
I guess there’s no point in discussing any further if providing sources and real numbers is not enough for you. Have a nice day, comrade.
It’s the average for “farmer” and you’re saying it’s what the average person who works on a farm they don’t own…
There are so many fucking thing wrong with that, it’s just crazy you can’t think of one even after I literally just told you:
At least look at mean instead
For what you’re talking about (a farmhand) the average is $17.25
https://www.fbn.com/community/blog/how-much-to-pay-your-farmhand
But that varies wildly
In 2024, pay rates for farm employees range from $7.72 an hour as the low hourly estimate in Florida to $32.05 an hour as the high estimate in North Dakota, according to research conducted through Indeed, ZipRecruiter, and NormSM.
Another way to look at salary data is by the overall average across the United States. The average pay for a farm hand in the United States is currently $17.25 an hour, according to Indeed. This is up from 2023’s average of $16.69 an hour. The annual salary for farm hands in 2024 range from $45,862 to $81,812, according to Indeed. The average salary is $61,254, up from last year’s $59,254.
Like I said. You have no idea what you’re talking about.
Even if you think that 17.25 is high, that’s for year round farm hands, most work is seasonal and paid way less.
You foam at the mouth about how my numbers are wrong, and then you post a link that validates the numbers and even suggests they are higher:
The annual salary for farm hands in 2024 range from $45,862 to $81,812, according to Indeed. The average salary is $61,254
Perhaps you need to slow down a bit to understand averages. Some people make less than $61k, some people make more than $61k, and for the average to work that means that for some that makes less there’s got to be others that make more. According to Indeed, that range is between $46k and $82k for FARM HANDS. Not part owners or some other capitalist arrangement, farm hands according to the stats.
By your own admission, there are a good deal of farm workers out there earning a salary of $82k /year, which BTW is higher than lots of people with master’s degrees in the city.
Since you are not contributing anything to the conversation, there’s no point in me replying further.
…well then i’ll contribute as a child of farmers: your data is grossly misrepresentative largely due to differing definitions of ‘farmer’…
…if we define farmers as the folks doing actual farm work - both physical labor and small-farm management, AKA family farms - you’ll find an economy governed by word-of-mouth entrepreneurship and hardscrabble side-gigs which scarcely shows up on human-resource databases like salary.com…if we define farmers as corporate-governed field-managers and operators segregated from the business management and manual labor pools, then HR databases are reasonably representative of that select class of personnel, not too different from most small-town managerial work…
…in the end, the former class is endangered and the latter a diminished and readily-exploited class, so does the distinction matter to folks struggling to survive either way?..i will say this: farms wait for no man’s schedule, government subsides come with commensurate capital debt, $25/hour comes with commensurate student debt, and secure retirement, health care, or social safety nets are far from reality for either class…
