What happened in the vegan community?

I hadn’t heard about any of this until seeing that ToS post.

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I’ve had conversations with vegans, and when one said that honey isn’t vegan because it’s produced by an insect (they said animal, but that’s incorrect), I stopped pretending that (at least some) vegans have any logic to their arguments.

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Wait, why is there no logic in there? Insects are animals, and honey is made by bees, which are insects and thus animals.

If you believe you shouldn’t use animals for your food production, which is a reasonable definition of veganism, then you shouldn’t eat honey.

I mean, fine if you do eat honey too, but I don’t really see your point here.

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I don’t think bees are killed for their honey.
I could be wrong though.

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You might be mixing up vegetarianism and veganism. Vegans also don’t drink milk or eat eggs. You don’t need to kill a cow or a chicken to get either.

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Some vegans feel any animal explotation is wrong, even down to taking the honey the hive created for their colony. Bees are in the animal kingdom, beside plants and fungus category. Also, over harvesting, moving hives to rent out pollinators is creating hive stress and together with nicotine seems to account for a lot of hive collapse/death. We have a growing hive collapse problem, that will end badly for the world if it continues

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