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Citations needed or all citations point to unreliable sources (Adrian Zenz).

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My personal conspiracy theory is that the Chinese government did engineer (or at least selectively cultivate) COVID

The theory I’d believe more is that the U S of A govt or one of its agencies engineered and released it in China.

China and India are growing economies, with decent populations and a pandemic would seriously delay their growth and help the U S of A keep it’s top place for a bit longer or destroy its competitors.

I’ve heard the theory being given decent thought by non-western people. And it’s equally, if not, more believable than the other one.

The US is the only country that has ever used nuclear weapons on civillians, so them using biological weapons on civillians would not be a big moral barrier for them or a big stretch to think about.

They probably didn’t think it’d spread this much and their own citizens n even president would be idiotic enough to be against vaccines and masks, when people were dying.

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The US is the only country that has ever used nuclear weapons on civillians, so them using biological weapons on civillians would not be a big moral barrier for them or a big stretch to think about.

That’s such a small stretch that it’s actually a confirmed fact that the US has repeatedly used chemical and biological warfare. Korea and Vietnam are merely two easy examples.

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The theory I’d believe more is that the U S of A govt or one of its agencies engineered and released it in China.

They did a stupid ass job them, killing the older only gonna help China, and it didn’t even killed enough people to make a difference and it backfired in the US, the conspiracy that China was engineering with it and shit escaped make more sense

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They did a stupid ass job them

They probably didn’t expect their president to be idiotic enough to be against vaccines and recommend stuff like bleach.

They’re a developed nation and could’ve had better control.
They were able to hinder Chinese trade a bit.

And didn’t they try and fail to kill Castro in many stupid ass ways?

I think them doing it is more likely than China doing it to their own, considering the trade issues that the virus caused for China at the time.

And again, they were the first to use nuclear weapons on civillians. Did it twice even.
I don’t think they’d have an qualms about using biological weapons, if they thought that it’d give them an edge.

They also can float the ‘China virus’ conspiracy to confuse the public and make them anti-China too.

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The one child policy has been abolished a good while before covid.

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That doesn’t change the distribution of demographics by itself. Even assuming the birth rate skyrocketed after the nixing of the one child policy, it takes ~20 years before those people are working age.

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The big problem China faced and why the one-child policy was abandoned after all is that there was a staunch focus on having a male child to “keep the bloodline alive” (cultural reasoning) which led to a stagnation in the 0-14 years age group due to an overpopulation with males. This is not fixed by killing off your elderly.

Covid was most deadly for the age group of 65 and above and in 2019, they had proportionally less people aged 65+ than the US (13.50% in China vs. 16.4% in the US). Either China’s scientists failed immensely or the virus stemmed from bad hygiene practices in livestock markets selling bats.

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Can confirm this is true because the same was true for my mum. She was against the COVID vaccine, but then she started believing that the theories were started by the Chinese government to target people who don’t listen to the authorities.

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The Chinese government has not persecuted Uyghurs, tin foil hat person

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I understand your desire to defend communism.

But really, how far does an authoritarian regime have to go, while calling itself communist, before you judge them?

What evidence would change your mind about the CCP?

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Where did I defend the CCP or communism?

(I do fully support communism and have critical support for China, but that’s not the question here)

What evidence would change your mind about […]

Show me evidence that the Uyghur are being persecuted

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I was banned from /r/latestagecapitalism for not loving China. Anytime I tried to explain why I do not unconditionally love everything about China, they said “but USA?” Dude, I don’t care about USA. It’s thousands of kilometers away from where I live. Everything I said was interpreted as defending USA. I say “China does this” they hear “USA doesn’t do that”. There are other countries in the world, you know, not everything is about USA. End of rant :)

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How are China’s stringent lockdowns explained in this conspiracy theory? Also, where do I sign up as a member?

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Half-done virus got out per accident?

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A repressive regime that becomes less repressive during a global pandemic is highly suspicious. Gotta keep up appearances.

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Okay, I’m convinced. 😂

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Nvm

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The reason I absolutely believe this to be true? Because I’ve used this on my little brothers since we were kids. I’m 45.

It’s called “reverse psychology.”

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It’s a bizarre and (afaik) unfounded conspiracy theory, but I don’t think this reasoning works as a refutation. It’s still very possible that the experiment got out, and even if not they still needed policies to protect all the people they didn’t want to be affected because the targeting isn’t perfect.

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