'We Are All Culpable': Third American Self-Immolates to Protest Israel's Gaza Onslaught(www.commondreams.org)

We’re just hitting the “random Bible verse” button right? Because speaking out against injustice is something that one can control. I can’t stop the injustice, but I can sure as hell make sure everyone knows that I think it’s shitty, and I can hope they will eventually stop being shitty.

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SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca

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2 months ago

You’re describing your version of “thoughts and prayers.”

The pro-Palestinian movement has devolved into a movement that’s largely based around hatred of Israel. Which is why most of society is ignoring it now. The genocide that’s being used to justify that hatred didn’t happen. The UN expressed concerns earlier in the year (which many took to be a declaration of genocide) but we haven’t heard anything from them since then. There were concerns over there being a famine (people said that was Israel’s intention) but that also didn’t happen.

The pro-Palestinian movement was unable to contain their hatred. Some people tried to call out the antisemitism but they were drowned out by the hate. So now it’s become an alt-right movement that distrusts the mainstream media (many think it’s controlled by the Jews) and have restricted their information intake to just internet sources that agree with their narrative. So it’s being ignored by most of society… other than concerns about potential violence coming from that movement. That movement failed to influence the broader population because no matter how much the hatred is denied by those within the movement, its obvious to everyone outside of the movement

Pushing false narratives isn’t going to help anyone in Palestine, but it’s not about helping Palestinians now is it? It’s about promoting hatred of Israel. The “speaking out” about a false narrative is just something that makes you feel better, it doesn’t help anyone. Probably actually hurts Palestinians because there won’t be peace as long as the hatred persists.

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JustAnotherKay@lemmy.world

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2 months ago

Crazy how much you can tell me about myself without knowing a single thing. Which of my two previous comments were anti semitic? Was it the one where I said we shouldn’t do nothing about injustice; or the one where I said we should voice our opinions?

The genocide didn’t happen

I believe 17 thousand dead children and 23 thousand of their dead parents would disagree with you. I think the 116 dead journalists would disagree (hey do you know what a war crime is? Journalists and civilians are protected classes during wartime). They’ve committed to total war - not just killing fighters, but bombing schools and hospitals too under the guise of “searching for the terrorists.” And they revel in it.

Maybe you haven’t heard anything about it, but the ICJ has been continuing to speak with both sides about their misdeeds. They’ve ordered Israel to stop destroying Palestine because they need to have evidence of both sides atrocities (Hamas has commit war crimes too!) to which Israel responded “the IDF is operating to dismantle Hamas military and administrative capabilities.” That was this May. Earlier this week, they bombed a school and claimed that 3 of the UNRWA members working there were Hamas agents - with literally 0 evidence as far as the UN can tell.

And before you start writing your response, really think about what you’re saying. You claim that those of us speaking out against it are spewing hatred, but I don’t hate Israel or Jewish people or any of that. I just wish that 40 thousand people (and counting! Humanitarian sites continue to get attacked to this day) didn’t have to die for no reason.

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