Comment by smpl@discuss.tchncs.de on apt install firefox

You could try out Linux Mint¹, they’re Ubuntu based and disable Snap by default².

Linux mint has no GNOME or KDE variant, so while they fix many Ubuntu issues, they are still on XOrg.

So? There’s nothing preventing someone from installing either, and they’re adding Wayland support to Cinnamon.

I did just that when I first switched to Linux, I installed KDE Neon on Linux Mint. And it broke everything. And when I went to forums to ask for help everyone yelled at me. So maybe don’t recommend installing KDE on Linux Mint.

True one can install it on Mint. But at that level, just

install Kubuntu
add timeshift
run unsnap (removes snap, installs flatpak and flathub, installs apps as flatpaks)
add the new official deb repo for Firefox
remove a possibly installed Firefox Flatpak (has missing sandboxing) and install with apt

While this is not that hard to do if you’re used to linux, I would not reccommend this to someone who is switching from windows.

Yeah probably. Installing Mint and GNOME or Plasma on there will be waay easier.

Use flatpak

Also how do you know snap will stay removed? I wouldn’t be surprised if it magically came back. Might as well use something that’s a little more respectful of your rights. Pop OS or Fedora seem like good choices if you just want gnome wayland. If you want KDE go for Fedora KDE

I moved to Fedora kde. Smaller, newer packages(kde 6), and wayland updated.

There is no reason to fight Ubuntu, just pick something that is not against your priorties. I came from Windows 10 and there was a lot of fighting for respecting user choice.

I would never use dnf Fedora again, it is an unstable mess.

I am on Kinoite since a year or more? Works great. Fedoras Packages are awesome, stable and often better than Uwuntu or OpenSUS

But dnf upgrades simply were extremely unreliable.

It doesnt matter how your distro looks, thats the desktop.

It matters how it backups, upgrades, recovers.

install Kubuntu

Or even better, install KDE Neon. Same as Kubuntu, but with less bloat and the latest KDE Plasma.

Haha no, not even KDE devs use it.

I am on Fedora Kinoite and happy. But this was about Ubuntu, and Fedora simply serves a different use case. Kubuntu and KDE Neon are both Ubuntu LTS.

It is a work in progress. Also I don’t think it is going to matter that much for most people. Worse case you can install gnome on Linux Mint.

I use Arch btw

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