More than half of all Americans, including a quarter of Democrats, support the mass deportation of immigrants who are living in the country illegally, a new poll found.

The Scripps News/Ipsos survey’s findings come as former President Trump and his allies have intensely focused on immigration in the 2024 election cycle.

About 54 percent of respondents — 86 percent of Republicans, 58 percent of independents and 25 percent of Democrats — said they “strongly” or “somewhat” support a wide-scale effort to deport millions of immigrants, and 59 percent said they are closely following the “immigration situation at the U.S.-Mexico border.”

That is fucking terrifying.

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When leftists tell liberals that America is and always has been a fascist state, this is a small fraction of what they mean.

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Which states are not fascist states? I’m curious. Or is every state a fascist state?

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What’s your definition of state for this conversation?

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I feel like we’re starting to paint fascism with too broad a brush.

The US has been and continues to be one of the most diverse countries in the world. Name another country where the majority race is 60% or less and the largest ethnicity is below 20%? The closest one I can think of is South Africa, but other examples are few and far between.

So if not by race and ethnicity, then how else could we measure how fascist the US is? Perhaps by nationalism. Well, while most Americans are patriotic, most also believe that nationalism is a serious threat to America - from Statista. Wouldn’t we need the majority to at least believe that nationalism wasn’t a threat to America in order for it to be a “fascist country?”

I’m all for looking at ways to improve things around here, but I am not for the extreme viewpoints from both sides of the aisle as of late. We don’t need to pigeonhole everyone to effect change. To the contrary, we’d get a lot more done for the American people if we teamed up against those who stand to gain from the gridlock.

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It’s a common pattern. Something actually bad exists, and a word is invented to describe that bad thing. People want to call the things they don’t like by that bad word, even if it’s not quite right, so the definition starts to widen a bit. It’s a very bad thing so it’s good to call things you don’t like by that word, it makes everyone else hate them too! The word stretches and stretches, and eventually everything vaguely bad is called that word. It loses its meaning.

A new word is invented to describe some specific actually bad thing. Repeat.

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My local uni pulled this shit with “sustainability.” It became so inclusive of a term that it lost all meaning. And then guess what? Solar panels stopped getting put on buildings, no windmills were put up. They added more gas turbines and steam tunnels.

They did convert to LED lighting though, so that’s a plus.

It’s been 10 years and I’m still pissed about the misappropriation of the term. When you focus on everything, you focus on nothing.

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Fascism is when immigration laws.

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I don’t think you’re dumb enough to actually the consider mass deportation of millions your insanely reductive and dismissive “immigration laws.”

But, as a liberal, you just might be clueless enough to not realize when America has done that, historically, who’s actually a citizen, here legally, or the guardian of a US citizen is usually a secondary concern.

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Say the line Bart!

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