I don’t think it’s relevant to compare abortion pre 2000 to post.

So with that caveat, when was there congressional support? Enough votes in both the house and Senate? With president ready to sign?

Which would have done fuck all as soon as a cycle came around where Republicans had control of Congress and the White House. Reversing a Supreme Court decision, OTOH, took decades of planning to line up just the right justices at just the right time.

So let’s just ignore the people who would suffer in the immediate future to instead “focus” on the indeterminate #revolution that will totally then deal with it. In the meantime I shouldn’t be bothered about the suffering of really any oppressed group and their actual lives. I see, I see. But what if I’d like for my queer folks to not be criminalized back into the closet? Not in the future after the #revolution but instead the immediate future?

If your so willing to sacrifice folks current ability to live their lives for the perceived high ground of not engaging with electoral politics then just go ahead and sacrifice yourself. Or is your immediate suffering too much of a concern?

Didya know you can both vote for Dems knowing the whole duopoly and electoral bullshit and still be a radical leftist? Crazy concept, I know. But let’s not forget that while economically and foreign policy wise the Dems and Republicans are the same, they are not the same in all regards. And unless you plan on dismantling the US government in the next few months, I’d like people I care about to be a liiiiiiiittle safer than the alternative.

But hey, the current lives of oppressed groups is just crumbs to you so, empathy is probably not the best way to convey this so let’s talk in terms you understand.

Queer folk are overwhelmingly leftist. Maybe you’d like to keep that potentially radicalizeable pop alive and put rather than dead or in the closet.

Or would you rather accelerate their oppression and hope the loss of rights causes a radicalization swing?

Or do you not give a shit either way cause once again, they are just crumbs to you.

Wait, do you happen to like Lemmy.ml?