You are viewing a single thread.
View all comments
15 points

Also applies to “I’d rather die than be disabled” in its many forms.

And I just posted this in another comment, but I think it’s relevant here too:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Just-world_fallacy

permalink
report
reply
11 points

What’s wrong with “I’d rather die than be disabled”? To me it looks a legitimate personal moral stance.

permalink
report
parent
reply
-5 points
*

To me it looks a legitimate personal moral stance.

Congratulations, you’re an ableist.

Edit just to give anyone who might actually give a shit a clue: if you replace disabled with any other marginalised group and your point becomes glaringly bigoted, it’s also bigoted when you aim it at disabled people. It’s really not that fucking complicated.

permalink
report
parent
reply
15 points

Can you explain why? Why can’t I choose not to live in case I’d get disabled (in some cases, I would say)?

As long as you are not advocating that disabled people should be killed, and you respect the personal nature of this position, what is the problem?

permalink
report
parent
reply
14 points

Since you added an edit later on: no replacement makes that statement bigoted. If my own morale or ideas bring me to my own evaluation - that applies only to me - that life in a certain condition wouldn’t be worth living, there is nothing bigoted (at least, inherently).

I wouldn’t want to live so many lives that people live. Like an exploited worker in a poor country, a female in a very religious society etc. Ultimately this is a personal decision on your own life and body, nobody else should have a saying on what I want to do with my life at this fundamental level.

The problem (which becomes being ableist, or racist, or sexist) is when this perspectives becomes an ideology that affects society. You can easily support a society that - say - grants equal opportunities to men and women and at the same time think that you wouldn’t want to live as a woman.

permalink
report
parent
reply
7 points
Removed by mod
permalink
report
parent
reply
5 points

Right-to-die is ableist?

I think we can keep that discussion out of this one. Supporting that argument would be strenuous and pyrrhic.

permalink
report
parent
reply

Chronic Illness

!chronicillness@lemmy.world

Create post

A community for chronically ill people.

Rules

  1. Be excellent to each other
  2. Absolutely no ableism, although good faith questions that take an ableist stance will be left up pending moderator discretion.
  3. No quackery. Does an up-to date major review in a big journal or a major government guideline come to the conclusion you’re claiming is fact? No? Then don’t claim it’s fact. This applies to potential treatments and disease mechanisms.

Community stats

  • 1K

    Monthly active users

  • 42

    Posts

  • 379

    Comments