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78 points

How is the idea that two evils can fight each other so hard to understand? Not all fights are between a good and a evil.

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56 points

Seriously. There are also people on Lemmy that think anyone who has sympathy for civilians also support terrorists.

How absolutely fucking brain-dead do you have to be to not understand that killing civilians is wrong? You can hate the rulers of Israel, Hamas, and Hezbollah while simultaneously hoping that Israeli, Palestinian, and Lebanese civilians don’t get hurt.

This isn’t rocket science.

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18 points

Hate the Nazis, not the Germans

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3 points

Hate the Kremlin, not the Russians.

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2 points

only some civilians. say you don’t agree with random rockets being launched into Israel makes you a Zionist genocide supporter according so so many hateful people here

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4 points

Emotions run high. Makes it difficult to see the bigger picture.

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29 points

It doesn’t help that they have the emotional maturity of toddlers

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23 points

Also the intellectual maturity.

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You’ve got to wonder how much of it is genuine and how much is some in a third world country being paid by putin/xi to spread propaganda on social media

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No, you really don’t have to wonder that. Not when you meet plenty of real people with those real opinions. I think questioning the humanity of those who we interact with is far more destructive. It’s often the conspiracy minded Lemmygrad users who share spaces with real people who disagree with them, and instead of managing the cognitive dissonance they just accuse them of being a bot. Everyone who disagrees with me is fake!

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1 point

Please refer to the rules, particularly revision

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Yeah and they also forget that something evil can have elements or components that arent evil. You wont kill every employee of a company because the ceo is evil. You wont kill every palestanian or israeli because the IDF and hamas are terrorist organizations.

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You simply side with the weaker side. Losing is a sign of virtue. /s

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17 points

That explains why they are fans of Russia as well.

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15 points

I think it is difficult for children to understand nuance like that. Aren’t cartoons always very obvious about who is in the right?

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15 points

Reality is a team sport, to some people. The conservative worldview is defined by interpersonal loyalty. There is some rightful order to things, and it’s your job to justify and promote that, by stringing together argument-shaped sentences. They think that’s all anyone’s doing.

And yes, I would call tankies conservatives. The word doesn’t refer to right-wing policies. It means “well somebody’s gotta be king.” They use leftist language, and absorb some leftist motivation, but any of it and all of it will go out the window for the social game of maintaining loyalty.

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It is fights between arbitrary stance with no factual evidence and arbitrary stance with no factual evidence.

Actually it sounds a lot like a holly war

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Your statement is akin to saying the Allies in WW2 were no heroes. In fact they were also the bad guys because they were racist and homophobic. Thus WW2 was a “complex and nuanced” issue.

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Parent comment: “Two evils can fight each other.”

Your idiotic comment: “You’re saying everyone who has ever fought anyone is evil and there’s no good guys anywhere!”

I’m confident that when you review what was said you’ll see just how fucking stupid your reply is. I’ve seen you say intelligent stuff before, drink your coffee!

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12 points

WW2 was complex and nuanced, especially outside of Europe, and extra especially in the Middle East

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WW2 was complex but I wouldn’t use the word nuanced. Most people can agree morality in WW2 can be fully reduced to Nazis bad

Whenever someone calls Hitler bad and Allies good it’s not a great look if someone shows up saying “well actually the Allies bombed Dresden too, it was actually all pretty nuanced”.

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