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How is the idea that two evils can fight each other so hard to understand? Not all fights are between a good and a evil.

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Seriously. There are also people on Lemmy that think anyone who has sympathy for civilians also support terrorists.

How absolutely fucking brain-dead do you have to be to not understand that killing civilians is wrong? You can hate the rulers of Israel, Hamas, and Hezbollah while simultaneously hoping that Israeli, Palestinian, and Lebanese civilians don’t get hurt.

This isn’t rocket science.

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18 points

Hate the Nazis, not the Germans

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Hate the Kremlin, not the Russians.

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only some civilians. say you don’t agree with random rockets being launched into Israel makes you a Zionist genocide supporter according so so many hateful people here

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4 points

Emotions run high. Makes it difficult to see the bigger picture.

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29 points

It doesn’t help that they have the emotional maturity of toddlers

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23 points

Also the intellectual maturity.

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You’ve got to wonder how much of it is genuine and how much is some in a third world country being paid by putin/xi to spread propaganda on social media

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No, you really don’t have to wonder that. Not when you meet plenty of real people with those real opinions. I think questioning the humanity of those who we interact with is far more destructive. It’s often the conspiracy minded Lemmygrad users who share spaces with real people who disagree with them, and instead of managing the cognitive dissonance they just accuse them of being a bot. Everyone who disagrees with me is fake!

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Please refer to the rules, particularly revision

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Yeah and they also forget that something evil can have elements or components that arent evil. You wont kill every employee of a company because the ceo is evil. You wont kill every palestanian or israeli because the IDF and hamas are terrorist organizations.

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You simply side with the weaker side. Losing is a sign of virtue. /s

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17 points

That explains why they are fans of Russia as well.

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I think it is difficult for children to understand nuance like that. Aren’t cartoons always very obvious about who is in the right?

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Reality is a team sport, to some people. The conservative worldview is defined by interpersonal loyalty. There is some rightful order to things, and it’s your job to justify and promote that, by stringing together argument-shaped sentences. They think that’s all anyone’s doing.

And yes, I would call tankies conservatives. The word doesn’t refer to right-wing policies. It means “well somebody’s gotta be king.” They use leftist language, and absorb some leftist motivation, but any of it and all of it will go out the window for the social game of maintaining loyalty.

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It is fights between arbitrary stance with no factual evidence and arbitrary stance with no factual evidence.

Actually it sounds a lot like a holly war

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Your statement is akin to saying the Allies in WW2 were no heroes. In fact they were also the bad guys because they were racist and homophobic. Thus WW2 was a “complex and nuanced” issue.

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Parent comment: “Two evils can fight each other.”

Your idiotic comment: “You’re saying everyone who has ever fought anyone is evil and there’s no good guys anywhere!”

I’m confident that when you review what was said you’ll see just how fucking stupid your reply is. I’ve seen you say intelligent stuff before, drink your coffee!

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WW2 was complex and nuanced, especially outside of Europe, and extra especially in the Middle East

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WW2 was complex but I wouldn’t use the word nuanced. Most people can agree morality in WW2 can be fully reduced to Nazis bad

Whenever someone calls Hitler bad and Allies good it’s not a great look if someone shows up saying “well actually the Allies bombed Dresden too, it was actually all pretty nuanced”.

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“America bad therefore all adversaries are good and all adversaries’ actions are good.”

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Is resistance to Genocide good? No this is a nuanced complex issue and anyone saying it’s not is an America hater! (Because israel = America right?)

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Imagine having your head this far up your own ass.

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But that’s his shtick, it’s Linkerbaan

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Resistance to genocide is the only moral position. That’s why it is so repugnant that you want more genocide in Gaza, more killing in Ukraine, and pogroms in Ohio.

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Resistance to genocide is the only moral position.

Because endorsing Genocide and voting for it is ‘resisting it’. 8K projector in full force.

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Man I tell you. I often like your posts but sometimes your comments are just too much.

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4 points

Which genocide? Is their belief that gay people should be killed and their actions to do so not considered a genocide?

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I was blocking most lammy.ml communities I encountered. I finally just blocked all the lammy.ml instances. Its mostly trash there and I will find some place else.

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9 points

For opensource communities (the one topic their communities are usually quite popular)

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Thankfully now that there are lots of viable alternatives. Plenty of those communities are moving or winding down. I would like to see more do what the KDE devs did. And have their own official communities whenever possible. Of course Mozilla only tried Mastodon but took theirs down already

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I would like to see more do what the KDE devs did. A

They have their own instance: https://lemmy.kde.social/

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5 points

That plus hex and lemigrad. It just cleans your feed.

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4 points

How do i block .ml?

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Go to setting and select block. go to the bottom and put lemmy.ml in the search and block. I blocked three lemmy.ml instances. So far they are the only one I’ve blocked.

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Thanks!

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Lemmy.ml communities tend to be awful because of the moderation, but Lemmy.ml users generally aren’t exceptionally bad. Depends on where you fall on the importance of each of those factors.

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You obviously never accidentally entered a .ml thread and said something completely innocent.

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9 points

Do it

NOW

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Well one of the mods over there is a clearly pro-Russian account.

I’ve been banned from that community (and all others on Lemmy.ml he is a mod on) several times by this account: davel@lemmy.ml

https://reddit.moonbeam.town/u/davel@lemmy.ml

https://lemmygrad.ml/u/davel

He absolutely refuses to answer the question “are you pro-Russian” while fiercely touting Russian propaganda, saying Russian propaganda doesn’t exist at all, denying Uighur genocide, advocating against Ukraine, all that jazz.

Ten bucks says he comes here whining about stalking again while refusing to answer if he supports Putler or not.

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Tankies will never, ever wander outside of their safe spaces. Despite them being able to talk here, none do it, mainly because then they’d have their bigotry and extremism challenged.

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True enough.

let’s see if we can’t ping him here though @davel@lemmy.ml idk how the pings work on Lemmy if the last didn’t ping him lol

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He’ll never come here

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No doubt there’s russia government propaganda out there but advocating against the ukrainian authoritarian government is not automatically “enemy” propaganda

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Advocating against Ukraine in the context of the Russo-Ukrainian war, by spreading pretty much verbatim what Russian state news is touting.

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