I noticed that when I attempt to subscribe to beehaw subs, it seems to be stuck on pending. This has been the case for a couple hours now. Is this expected behavior? I think I read somewhere that beehaw was defederating. Perhaps this is the reason it’s not working?

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Yeah, you won’t be able to. Basically, lemmy.world won’t be able to see new posts on beehaw, and vice versa.

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Except I can see a new post from Beehaw. I’m having a conversation with somebody on a Beehaw community right now.

It seems the catch here may be that they are a Mastodon user. I guess Beehaw is still federated with their instance and so are we, so I can still see their content as if it were from Beehaw and we can comment to each other there!? But I guess if any Beehaw users join in, I’ll not be able to see their comments and they’ll not be able to see mine?

It’s quite odd, interesting and confusing.

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Oh my! I can imagine this will hurt bees more than the rest of us, because they will read discussions with some comments missing just because the commenter happened to be from lemmy.world or other blocked instances.

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yes. so from beehaw’s perspective they have no access to lemmyworld communities (like how lemmyworld lacks beehaw communities). On other instances, like kbin magazines, beehaw users will be unable to see lemmyworld comments, and thus be “missing” comments and posts. so beehaw is definitely “hurt” more by this in terms of their content accessibility.

however, beehaw sees this as a positive and a benefit, not as a negative, because they don’t want to see lemmyworld content.

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Yeah, seems like that’ll be the case 😲. This explains it quite well: https://lemmy.world/post/149743

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as a lemmyworld user, you are not getting updates from beehaw. they blocked you. beehaw people should not be seeing your posts at all.

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Isn’t it also the case that each instance gets updates from all others? So in this case, lemmy.world’s access to beehaw communities might lack user@beehaw.org activity and beehaw’s access lacks user@lemmy.world activity?

But I also believe lemmy.world can see old beehaw stuff from before the defed, so that could play a role. I’m really just trying to wrap my head around all the network effects and repercussions, its confusing as hell.

Edit: There’s this comment that explains things pretty well, in case anyone is curious: https://lemmy.world/comment/205763 – sounds like all updates go to and eventually come from the instance holding a community, so if you’re defederated from them, you only see federated cross-posts in a sense. At that point I think there are different comment sections altogether.

I’m 110% sure I’m still misunderstanding something, for what it’s worth lmao

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