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The support may be dropping away anyway.

Imagine a right wing US/EU election sweep from Zelensky’s point of view. They’re going to force Ukraine to capitulate, and in a very lopsided manner that cripples Ukraine forever, hence this could be an actual option/last resort more than a threat.

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Would a right wing US government force a capitulation? I was under the impression that support from the US was bipartisan.

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The right wing has been making loads of pro-Russia noise, but do also try not to alienate their popular support too much before they’re in power.

Realistically, Trump will sell out Ukraine to Russia if he’s offered a good deal, but there’s no point publicly destroying his ability to welch on supporting Russia before he’s paid to support them (if you can’t afford to walk away, you can’t afford to negotiate), and there’s no point in Russia paying him before he’s actually in power and able to make the US govt cave in the first place.

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One party has completely been taken over by Russian assets, guess which.

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The Trumpest of the the Trump… The big Trumpest… 😃

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Its this exact kind of baseless nonsense that makes it so damn difficult for a foreigner to try and understand US politics.

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Are you kidding? Trump hates Zelensky with a burning passion, because he personally wronged him.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trump–Ukraine_scandal

The Trump–Ukraine scandal was a political scandal that arose primarily from the discovery of U.S. President Donald Trump’s attempts to coerce Ukraine into investigating his political rival Joe Biden and thus potentially damage Biden’s campaign for the 2020 Democratic Party presidential nomination.

He’s going to screw Ukraine and offer Russia a favorable capitulation the absolute first second he can. And probably offer Russia Zelensky if he can manage it.

The Republicans are increasingly turning anti-NATO as well.

Oldschool Republicans lawmakers 100% support Ukraine, maybe even stronger than Democrats do. Some are still hanging around the Senate, but most are gone or retiring soon (like Mitch Mcconnell), and they’re already gone from the U.S. House and Trump’s cabinet.

edit: Now that I think about it, Mike Johnson (The US House speaker) did make a suprise decision in support of Ukraine and in defiance of his own party, but his position as speaker is extremely precarious. I don’t think that will happen again.

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Not kidding, just a foreigner. I assumed it was bipartisan given America’s hatred for Russia over the past few decades. Didn’t realize Trump was so bully for em. I knew about the whole “he’s a Russian not” conspiracy but given that seemed to be false I assumed it was more accepted by both sides that Ukraine should have aid.

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