I’m aware of the NCIS scenes, what else you guys got?

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Just because a plate stopped a bullet, doesn’t mean the plate then distributed that force evenly across it’s whole surface. The bulge on the back side of an impacted plate doesn’t form gently.

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To add to your point, trauma pads exist to help mitigate this. Blunt force trauma is no joke.

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Backface soft armor also catches spall, which can be very dangerous itself. Even ceramic plates can have a danger of ceramic shards. I believe modern ESAPIs, XSAPIs, and such modern plates are designed stand alone, but original SAPIs carried a warning that their rating was only in conjunction with soft armor.

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Maybe on a plate from 1965 that is just a sheet of steel inside cloth. Modern ceramic plates spread the energy of the impact.

Here’s a video of a Level IV plate taking a 30.06 AP round followed by like 6 5.56 AP rounds and a 7.62x54R AP round so powerful it jammed the rifle.

There’s no significant plate bulge even after all of that.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=D1qLZwBeMuM

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I would just like to note that they were shooting at 2 separate plates here, and only shot each plate once with the grade of ammo at which they were rated. The first plate they did shoot with 5 smaller rounds after they hit it with the larger one, but they didn’t shoot both of those larger rounds at the same plate.

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Those “smaller rounds” were extremely hot 5.56 rounds - an upgraded version of the rounds the guy above me is saying fires through brick walls and cracks ribs if it hits armor.

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Well, body armor has certainly improved from what i can tell 😅

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Mind you, this is what people wear going into combat. It’s for military, SWAT, etc.

An everyday police vest wouldn’t take that kind of beating.

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