Summary

Donald Trump’s decisive victory in the 2024 election leaves no room for ambiguity or an “asterisk” in his legitimacy, as he won both the popular vote and the Electoral College.

This outcome represents a clear mandate from American voters, who knowingly chose Trump’s policies and approach.

The anticipated results include pardons for January 6 participants, attacks on the press, and an administration filled with controversial figures.

By voting for Trump, Americans prioritized divisive rhetoric over democratic values, accepting the resulting turmoil.

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Something to keep in mind.

Trump didn’t win a significant number of new voters. He kept his base, which is roughly the size of what it was in 2020.

The problem was that Harris lost voters. In droves. Nationwide. And she took a lot of winnable downballot candidates with her. And I’m not even saying that to blame her. She ran a magnificent campaign while Trump was most noted for saying “They’re eating the dogs!”. So why did she still lose, and lose so hard? Because Democrats stayed home. Roughly about 10% of them overall, nationwide. Sure, some of them stayed home or voted 3rd party to protest Gaza, especially in Michigan. But the real story is that she underperformed so badly nationwide. I mean, for the love of God, New Jersey was competitive. That call about Iowa possibly going blue is going to be up there with “Dewey defeats Truman” in terms of political misfires. She severely underperformed with men and Latinos, especially Latino men. Which means this: 8-10 million people couldn’t stomach voting for Trump, but they’d rather passively hand over the country to Trump vs. voting for a black woman. Whether the problem they have is the fact that she’s black, female, or both is irrelevant. But the message they sent was clear. “We don’t want Trump, but we’d rather step back and just let Trump take the country rather than vote for her.”

The problems with bigotry in this country go much deeper than some people are willing to admit, and Harris just found that out the hard way. As far as the voting base is concerned, voting for Obama was a mistake that they will not repeat again, and they just proved that by handing Trump everything he wanted on a silver platter instead.

We can’t even say that it’s an outsized minority any more. A majority of the people in this country just spoke up and said that they either want the racism and bigotry or are at least willing to put up with it.

Trump won the election not because Democrat voters said “Trump!”, but because they said “Not Harris.”

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The large turnout in 2020 was more driven by the will to remove Trump than to elect Biden. This time it seems they forgot how bad it was and decided to stay home.

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This honestly cements my view that America is a racist nation, no question.

You don’t get 15 million missing votes without a solid chunk of those being Democrats, bog standard Democrats, that didn’t want to vote for a black woman.

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that didn’t want to vote for a black woman.

If you ignore the multitude of policy issues she was to the right of the Dem voter base on, I guess you could blame it on that…

But that would just mean we’d repeat the mistake again…

Can we just stop running candidates who are to the right of the voter base?

We tried your strategy the last three elections and Trump has won 2 of them. It doesn’t seem to be working

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Oh please. You all, and let’s face it at 15 million, it’s not progressives that didn’t vote here, but honestly if you didn’t vote because of some pithy bullshit about having not progressive policies vs policies farther than the far right and into fascist policies, well you’re definitely part of that problem and thanks for condoning racism you racist.

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We absolutely can stop running candidates. As a matter of fact, I don’t think we’ll be running candidates ever again.

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Trump won because the DNC underestimated the sexists, racists and the idiot woke who think they somehow did something with this for palestine.

Editorial note:

i know woke is a poisoned word but I like to use to describe idiots who think they are so smart and better than others that they would rather let trump elected than admit that voting for the lesser evil is the right thing to do

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Nailed it. People are still mad that Obama made it into the White House and we’re forever going to pay for it. And a black woman running for president? Americans all saw Trump’s serious cognitive decline — I don’t doubt that any outside of a hardcore few didn’t — but America made for damn sure it wouldn’t be Kamala.

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Trump won because Harris was a shitty candidate who never won a primary for the president.

I was hoping she’d pull off a victory anyways but the lesson we should take away is that if a sitting president needs to step down from running for another term we need to have a snap election.

This all went to hell when Harris was appointed as our candidate.

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I called it back in July when I said Democrats should have run Fetterman. Only appearance matters to the majority of Americans.

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Trump won because Harris ran a dog shit campaign.

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And Trump didn’t? It’s always very telling when you all love shouting BOTH SIDES from the mountain tops, but when it comes to blame-

Well that’s different.

Trump had nothing to campaign on. He insulted and threw temper tantrums. Yet…. Harris Rand a dog shit campaign…

Got it.

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She ran a magnificent campaign

The entire point of a campaign is to attract voters…

Because Democrats stayed home. Roughly about 10% of them overall, nationwide.

So I don’t see how both statement can be true…

Her campaign did a shit job at getting people to vote for her, how do you consider it magnificent?

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  • She absolutely crushed Trump at the debate
  • Her rallies were drawing far more people than Trump’s
  • She had A-list star power (Beyonce, Julia Roberts, Taylor Swift, etc.) actively endorsing her
  • She took over a race where Biden was down by 5%+ and losing ground daily to at least making it competitive
  • She only had 107 days to work with.

It proved to not be enough. The people who were coming to her rallies were apparently all people who were going to vote for her anyway; the size of the rallies only gave the illusion that her campaign was attracting more voters. And with so many Democrats actively choosing to stay home rather than vote at all, it seems like nothing she did would have mattered anyway. But given the crap she had to work with, she ran a near-flawless campaign. She had no way of knowing that it just didn’t matter.

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You listed things they tried, but didn’t work

The entire point of a campaign is to attract voters…

Literally the only metric that matters for how good a campaign was, is how many votes they got.

And Kamala drastically underperformed.

So her campaign wasn’t “magnificent” it was a spectacular disaster that couldn’t beat trump with everything you listed and a billion dollars

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Yeah but if you start to poke fingers at the Democratic Party, you might start to realize that most of their corporate donors are fine with a Trump presidency. Almost like they were fine with Harris campaigning on keeping the status quo, because they’d win either way. Better to start blaming voters now!

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Considering where Biden’s polling was this summer, the fact that the Dems held onto New York is impressive.

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This is the danger of lowering our bar to Trump’s level as “good enough”

Biden could be better than trump.

Kamala could be better than Biden.

But if Kamala isn’t good enough, trump would win.

Because as multiple people have been shouting for 8 years:

Being better than trump isn’t good enough to get enough votes to beat trump

All of this could be avoided by running decent candidates who won a fair primary. But the DNC won’t give that as an option because they want to use the threat of trump to push thru as “moderate” of a Dem as they can to maximize corporate donations.

Beating trump wasn’t the DNC’s goal, it was raising as much money as possible

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If Kamala lost because racial bigotry — then how did Obama win? It probably has more to do with misogyny and single issue voters than it does race.

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