Nightwingdragon
Because people were unwilling to vote for a black woman president. It’s that simple.
- There are estimates of as many as 15 million former Biden voters who opted to sit this election out, knowing full well that doing so is a de-facto vote for Trump.
- Latino men, and men in general, voted overwhelmingly for Trump.
- Abortion issues fared better than Harris in virtually every state where it was on the ballot.
- Harris underperformed almost universally across the country, to the point where New York, New Jersey, and California were all much closer than they should have been.
This tells me that it wasn’t the policies. People just didn’t want Kamala Harris. Maybe because she’s black. Or Indian. Or a woman. Or a former prosecutor. Or some combination of the above. But whatever the reason was, people felt so strongly about saying “Not Kamala Harris” that they stayed home knowing full well they were de-facto voting for Trump in the process.
Trump didn’t “win” this election, in that he got virtually the same votes he got last time. Kamala Harris lost this election because Democrats sent a very clear message that they are so against Kamala Harris that they were willing to hand the Presidency and the entirety of Congress instead of voting for her. This wasn’t just a loss. This was a “Fuck YOU, in particular” sent right at Harris.
I firmly believe it was a combination of her race and male voters’ unwillingness to vote for a woman under any circumstances.
has not said how he would handle the mounting debt in another White House term.
Yes he has. By dumping more debt on them. He’s already stated his plans to reinstate the debt and add retroactive interest. Tarriffs are going to make prices skyrocket, and then God knows what Elon Musk is going to come up with, but even he said it wasn’t going to be good.
Our children will be paying for all of this for decades to come.
I’m not saying you’re necessarily wrong. But Trump won by far more than Stein pulled away from Harris (Outside of maybe Michigan). Even if she did court those votes, it probably wouldn’t have mattered.
But last night wasn’t the result of a political miscalculation that they realized in hindsight. She underperformed when compared to Biden by roughly 10%. 8-10 million Democrats that voted last time opted out this time. That’s a shellacking. 8-10 million people said “I’m not going to vote for Trump, but I’d first step aside and let Trump win anyway over voting for Harris.” There was nothing she could have done to win them over. Her campaign was doomed from the start. She just didn’t know it at the time.
- She absolutely crushed Trump at the debate
- Her rallies were drawing far more people than Trump’s
- She had A-list star power (Beyonce, Julia Roberts, Taylor Swift, etc.) actively endorsing her
- She took over a race where Biden was down by 5%+ and losing ground daily to at least making it competitive
- She only had 107 days to work with.
It proved to not be enough. The people who were coming to her rallies were apparently all people who were going to vote for her anyway; the size of the rallies only gave the illusion that her campaign was attracting more voters. And with so many Democrats actively choosing to stay home rather than vote at all, it seems like nothing she did would have mattered anyway. But given the crap she had to work with, she ran a near-flawless campaign. She had no way of knowing that it just didn’t matter.
Something to keep in mind.
Trump didn’t win a significant number of new voters. He kept his base, which is roughly the size of what it was in 2020.
The problem was that Harris lost voters. In droves. Nationwide. And she took a lot of winnable downballot candidates with her. And I’m not even saying that to blame her. She ran a magnificent campaign while Trump was most noted for saying “They’re eating the dogs!”. So why did she still lose, and lose so hard? Because Democrats stayed home. Roughly about 10% of them overall, nationwide. Sure, some of them stayed home or voted 3rd party to protest Gaza, especially in Michigan. But the real story is that she underperformed so badly nationwide. I mean, for the love of God, New Jersey was competitive. That call about Iowa possibly going blue is going to be up there with “Dewey defeats Truman” in terms of political misfires. She severely underperformed with men and Latinos, especially Latino men. Which means this: 8-10 million people couldn’t stomach voting for Trump, but they’d rather passively hand over the country to Trump vs. voting for a black woman. Whether the problem they have is the fact that she’s black, female, or both is irrelevant. But the message they sent was clear. “We don’t want Trump, but we’d rather step back and just let Trump take the country rather than vote for her.”
The problems with bigotry in this country go much deeper than some people are willing to admit, and Harris just found that out the hard way. As far as the voting base is concerned, voting for Obama was a mistake that they will not repeat again, and they just proved that by handing Trump everything he wanted on a silver platter instead.
We can’t even say that it’s an outsized minority any more. A majority of the people in this country just spoke up and said that they either want the racism and bigotry or are at least willing to put up with it.
Trump won the election not because Democrat voters said “Trump!”, but because they said “Not Harris.”
Do not underestimate the allure of a man who offers you a boogeyman to blame all your problems on, while promising you that only he can stop it. That allure is very difficult for many people to overcome. One of the other problems with it is that even if they do see the consequences of their choices, it’s just as easy for Trump to convince them that those problems are the boogeyman’s fault too. It doesn’t have to make sense, and Trump doesn’t care if it does as long as it keeps the rubes in line and focusing their anger on anyone else but him.
This is a cult following. Any attempt to show them that their problems were caused by Trump will only cause them to MAGA harder.
Oh I’m not saying he gives half a shit about them. But pardoning them is a gesture that ensures that the 7100 people at his disposal knows that he has their back, while costing Trump exactly nothing. Trump won’t do it out of any care for the J6ers, but because he’ll still benefit from it.
How cute…you think that norms still apply.
Trump will self-pardon, say he did nothing wrong, and pardon the J6 rioters unconditionally. And the same Congress who spent the day in a basement fearing for their own lives will stand up and applaud, and the Supreme Court will rubber stamp it with one hand while fellating him with the other.
This is the Trump revenge tour 2.0. Trump does what he wants, and everybody just bends the law around it. Traditional norms are simply ignored. If you think it was bad last time, you ain’t seen nothing yet.
“Now that the election is over I think we can finally say that yeah actually Project 2025 is the agenda,” Walsh wrote on X (formerly Twitter).
In other words “Damn right we lied to everybody! Thanks, suckers!”
I guess there’s no need to even bother wearing the masks any more. Racism, misogyny and bigotry won the day. Handily. Republicans turned out in droves to sign up for more of it, and Democrats have said they’re willing to accept it rather than elect a black woman. At that point, why even bother hiding it. Everybody knows what it is, and last night they said in pretty decisive fashion that they either actively want it or are at least willing to accept it.
We did this to ourselves. Trump made some small gains, but Harris underperformed Biden by roughly 10% or so. That means millions of Democrats sat home instead of voting for Harris, which also cost the Democrats some House and Senate seats downballot due to the lower turnout. There was no election fraud. This was a free and fair election. Trump won the popular vote. There are no excuses this time. We. Voted. For. This.
8-10 million Democrats stayed home. I don’t care if you’re “protesting Gaza”, or if you’re a closeted bigot who would rather sit out than vote for a black woman. Or whatever. If you stayed home rather than vote for Harris, you voted for this. In the words of Rush, “If you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice”. And you made that choice knowing it was a de-facto vote for Trump.
The GOP had a damn good night last night. And they couldn’t even wait 24 hours before cramming it right down our throats. They couldn’t even wait 24 hours to take the mask off. Give it a couple of days and I figure the national abortion ban will be the next thing they don’t bother trying to lie about any more. Why bother trying to hide it? We already said we’re cool with it.
