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Blame everyone but Harris huh?

She, along with Hillary, never once bothered to try getting Stein voters to switch to her. It was both their downfalls. Trump did all he could to get RFK voters to switch to him.

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I’m not saying you’re necessarily wrong. But Trump won by far more than Stein pulled away from Harris (Outside of maybe Michigan). Even if she did court those votes, it probably wouldn’t have mattered.

But last night wasn’t the result of a political miscalculation that they realized in hindsight. She underperformed when compared to Biden by roughly 10%. 8-10 million Democrats that voted last time opted out this time. That’s a shellacking. 8-10 million people said “I’m not going to vote for Trump, but I’d first step aside and let Trump win anyway over voting for Harris.” There was nothing she could have done to win them over. Her campaign was doomed from the start. She just didn’t know it at the time.

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Also if you’re removing Stein you also have to remove RFK Jr to be fair which basically undoes it

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Stein has well under a million votes, her votes wouldn’t have made a difference if Harris got every single one.

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Tell that to the person above me. People either voted for Stein or stayed home (since Stein wasn’t on the ballot in many states).

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…RFK Jr did just as much damage as Stein did and got almost the same number of votes despite being off a ton of important large states. He’s the reason New Mexico isn’t so close it’s a Swing State. It ain’t the greens

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Not that I can see. He was off the ballot in most swing states.

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HENCE MY POINT.

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They went further than that this year, instead of trying to win over disenfranchised voters they completely ignored anything to the left of Chaney

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