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They’ll learn the left never shows up, even when their human fucking rights are at stake. Next election the Dems will go hard center, to get the voters that actually show up. *We’re going to see them go hard on Clinton’s “It’s the economy, stupid”.

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She was on a rocketship trajectory before getting Cheney on and focusing on old ex-R endorsements. There aren’t enough voters in the center and you can’t switch any magats is the takeaway.

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Well that and before going super war hawk in her nomination acceptance speech.

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She was on a rocketship trajectory before getting Cheney

That’s what we thought but apparently not. All this time a large chunk of Americans were getting brainwashed by social media algorithms that she’s going to start WW3, or going to let all the illegal immigrants in, or she is going to make gas even more expensive, or round up Christians or some other bullshit.

The DNC didn’t have a chance because the voters are fucking morons.

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and you’re never going to be able to stop that, so you need to give the left who stayed home (as fucking stupid as that was) someone to be excited about

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There are literally shit tons of voters in the center, that is the big fat juicy center that decides elections. Plus those voters are worth double, because it’s a vote for you and a vote taken away from the other party.

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Dems lose when they try to appease this magical center because it takes the wind out of the sails of of their voting base. I mean getting buddy buddy with Liz Cheney killed my enthusiasm entirely and I only showed up to vote against Republicans instead of wanting to vote.

Dems win when they promote hope and energize voters to increase voting turnout. She squandered that momentum.

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This is true, and those voters main concern in presidential elections is the economy. According to NBC’s exit polling:

Nearly half — 45% — of all voters said they were worse off financially than they were four years ago. That was a higher level of dissatisfaction than what registered in exit polls in any recent election going back to 2008, when the election took place amid the financial crisis that propelled Barack Obama to victory.

Though the economy is growing […] 2 in 3 voters rated the U.S. economy poorly, a level higher than in 2020, when the country struggled to get in gear during the Covid pandemic.

[…] About three-quarters of voters nationwide said they felt negatively about the way things are going in the country, including 29% who said they were downright angry.

Meanwhile only 4% of voters cited foreign policy (which covers the Gaza genocide and Ukraine’s defense – immigration was broken out into a separate category) as their main concern. Even if Harris flipped the big red “stop the genocide” button and brought those single issue voters out of hiding, there’s no way they could outnumber the voters who were pissed about the economy.

Frankly, if she was going to have a real chance, she needed to throw Biden under the bus – and it still might not have made a difference.

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Look at how well that worked out.

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That’s a bold statement only a day after a campaign based on going hard-center crashed and burned.

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They’ll learn the left never shows up, even when their human fucking rights are at stake.

The right didn’t show up either, but you lot were gung-ho about getting their fucking approval. You showed the left everything you are.

If the left are not important enough to court, they’re not important enough to blame, even though that means your strategy was shit and you moved to the right for nothing but the sheer joy of it.

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If the left are not important enough to court, they’re not important enough to blame

This election showed either 1) the left will literally never show up, or 2) the left doesn’t exist. Take your pick, either way the left is done. No one’s going to rely on the left or run a left platform for fucking decades.

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I can’t tell if you’re being sarcastic or a colossal idiot who learned nothing from the satirical article about the fact that the people you’re deflecting blame off of learning nothing.

If it’s the former, well done I guess? 🤷

If it’s the latter, please wake the fuck up and smell the malignant incompetence.

Edit: just realized that you’re the “Hillary 2016 was further left than Obama 2008” weirdo, so it’s DEFINITELY the latter. Please abandon your ridiculous pet hypothesis and get a fucking clue.

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As a non-American I wanna ask: Is the American left blaming Harris and the DNC for this or is it all “Americans are so sexist” and “leftists suck” nonsense like I’m seeing here? Idk where to get this information and I wanna know if I get to have some faith in humanity.

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It’s all of the above, really. The Left (actual left, rather than the center right to right wing Democrats in charge of the party) is blaming the DNC, Harris, racism, sexism, the billionaire-owned media, the antiquated political system, and of course the people who voted for fascism. Because all of those things contributed meaningfully to the baffling and tragic result.

Meanwhile, the DNC and their most diehard supporters blame racism, sexism, and most of all the Left.

They obstinately refuse to acknowledge that their “team” fucked up, so they’re blaming the people whose warnings they refused to listen to.

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“Hillary 2016 was further left than Obama 2008”

Strawman

weirdo

Ad hom

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Nope, you literally keep arguing that Hillary lost because she went left and Obama won because he didn’t. Accurately restating your nonsense is not a strawman.

As for ad hominem, that’s a nope too. An ad hominem fallacy is when you try to dismiss an argument by insulting the person rather than the context of the argument.

In this case, I’m adding an accurately descriptive insult as an observation after dismissing your argument based on one of many examples of how ridiculous the argument itself is. Which is not an ad hominem.

You, logic, and language don’t seem to be on the best of terms…

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Ya, I feel like I’m taking crazy pills with all these posts blaming democrats for losing when billionaires are literally buying votes to stop Harris.

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I mean Harris also had billionaire support. She wasn’t exactly a revolutionary. And you put “billionaires” but that was Elon Musk’s incompetent ass.

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According to Fox news Harris had more Billionaires on her side

A new report shows the Harris-Walz campaign and its Democratic allies spent nearly $1.4 billion on aired political ads in their failed bid to defeat President-elect Trump, outspending the 45th president and Republicans by nearly $460 million.

It is Fox so take it with a grain of salt. But it would not be surprising.

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