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This article said basically nothing about what the “AOC left” has actually accomplished. It’s just a pro-Dem puff piece. Also, the author clearly doesn’t understand who leftists are.

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How far did you get in this article?

The article sites examples such as the left dragging the party into supporting:

  • a much bigger social safety net during the pandemic
  • debt forgiveness
  • investing a shitload in transitioning to green tech

I could go on. Read the article.

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We’re not transitioning to green tech, we’re doing what was previously known as the “all of the above” plan, which is among the worst possible options. We’re expanding renewables, but we’re also in the midst of one of the largest expansions of Oil and Gas development, and specifically pipelines and drilling on public lands, in the history of the country, if not the largest overall.

We could build a hundred trillion dollars worth of renewable energy, but it literally does nothing but put MORE carbon into the atmosphere via production unless we couple it with drawing down fossil fuel usage.

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The point being, if you think we’re not doing enough now, you should’ve seen how little the DNC was going to do before the left of the party started making a big stink.

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it literally does nothing but put MORE carbon into the atmosphere via production unless we couple it with drawing down fossil fuel usage.

You are completely incorrect.

https://www.princeton.edu/news/2023/07/12/new-study-evaluates-climate-impact-ira#:~:text=The research teams found that,journal Science on June 29.

This study, among others, not only confirms a reduction in emissions, but estimates more than 40% of a reduction by 2035 based on 2005 numbers.

When I was in college, my goal was to work for a green energy company. I didn’t think that was realistic for a chemical engineer for at least 15 years at best. And now, about 5 years after graduating? I’m working for a company that generates green energy and is also decarbonizing other industries.

I know doomposting has its place, but it should at least be factual.

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Thank you. And great name.

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I read the article twice, chief.

“The left has won a lot more than “nothing” from engaging with the Democratic Party.”

“The left” in this instance is talking about actual leftists, and I would love anyone to point to me where the Democrats have done ANYTHING that LEFTISTS want. What have they done that fundamentally changes anything? What have they done that hasn’t been and won’t be stricken down by the courts? What have they done for labor organization?

Fuck the democrats.

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I would love anyone to point to me where the Democrats have done ANYTHING that LEFTISTS want.

You should read the article then.

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February 2023:
https://www.reuters.com/business/white-house-renews-pressure-railroads-over-paid-sick-leave-2023-02-09/

“White House renews pressure on railroads over paid sick leave”

June 2023:
https://www.ibew.org/media-center/Articles/23Daily/2306/230620_IBEWandPaid

"After months of negotiations, the IBEW’s Railroad members at four of the largest U.S. freight carriers finally have what they’ve long sought but that many working people take for granted: paid sick days.

Biden deserves a lot of the credit for achieving this goal for us,” Russo said. “He and his team continued to work behind the scenes to get all of rail labor a fair agreement for paid sick leave.”

Cue leftists: “Yes our stated goals were achieved and objections overcome, but it didn’t arrived perfectly packaged with a bow on top looking like our ideal utopia, therefore all problems with progress are clearly the Democrats fault.”

Seriously, please stop. Progress is never going to occur in exactly the way you think it should. It’s still progress. Don’t let the perfect be the enemy of the good.

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But, but, you gotta vote for Biden or Trump wins. /s

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Jesus I couldn’t even finish the article. It was a long winded “but the Democrats are good actually!” Sheepdog bullshit piece.

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This article is about progressives changing the Democratic parties objectives/policies and does give examples.

Between 2009 and 2020, many left-wing Democrats agitated for their party to embrace a “full employment” macroeconomic policy. AOC was among them. Then, when the COVID crisis hit, Democrats did as these progressives advised.

In 2020, congressional Democrats insisted on increasing unemployment benefits to a level that left many laid-off workers with more income than they’d previously earned at their jobs. Under Biden, meanwhile, Democrats enacted a $1.9 trillion stimulus bill on a party-line vote. The party’s decision to pursue stimulus on this scale — after Congress had already appropriated trillions of dollars in relief spending — was explicitly motivated by the left’s critique of Obama. As New York Times reported in 2021:

Since Occupy Wall Street, the American left has made student debt forgiveness one of its core policy demands. The Biden administration has taken extraordinary measures to answer that call. The president has successfully canceled a record $116.6 billion in forgiveness for 3.4 million borrowers. He has also attempted to unilaterally cancel at least $10,000 of student debt for virtually every U.S. borrower.

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“The left has won a lot more than “nothing” from engaging with the Democratic Party.”

That’s straight from the article. Progressives are democrats. Leftists are not democrats and don’t work with liberals.

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Well, using your terminology, progressives have sure gotten a hell of a lot more left wing policy implemented than leftists, so…

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Leftists are not democrats and don’t work with liberals.

This is false. Not all leftists are Democrats but some are and/or vote for them and do work with them.

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How is it a pro-Dem puff piece when the first half of the article describes the arguments against progressive headliners like AOC?

It then goes into great detail examining those claims, and provides, as @hypelightfly notes, significant specifics on how those progressives created real policy shifts that directly benefited Americans in a time of crisis.

This is an intelligent, in-depth, nuanced opinion piece with well sourced reporting. Either you’re too trapped in your bubble to acknowledge that, or you haven’t learnt how to read and critically think at the same time.

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