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How far did you get in this article?

The article sites examples such as the left dragging the party into supporting:

  • a much bigger social safety net during the pandemic
  • debt forgiveness
  • investing a shitload in transitioning to green tech

I could go on. Read the article.

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We’re not transitioning to green tech, we’re doing what was previously known as the “all of the above” plan, which is among the worst possible options. We’re expanding renewables, but we’re also in the midst of one of the largest expansions of Oil and Gas development, and specifically pipelines and drilling on public lands, in the history of the country, if not the largest overall.

We could build a hundred trillion dollars worth of renewable energy, but it literally does nothing but put MORE carbon into the atmosphere via production unless we couple it with drawing down fossil fuel usage.

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The point being, if you think we’re not doing enough now, you should’ve seen how little the DNC was going to do before the left of the party started making a big stink.

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Thus why it is inherently impossible for us to make meaningful enough changes to prevent the absolutely worst case scenario under our current systems of governance, which afford far too much power to individuals to diverge from the desires of their constituency with no meaningful avenues for redressing grievance or punishing politicians who refuse the will of their constituency.

If your only solution is to vote in more left democrats, millions of people will suffer and die from climate related catastrophe, and we will not likely leave a habitable planet to our grandchildren.

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it literally does nothing but put MORE carbon into the atmosphere via production unless we couple it with drawing down fossil fuel usage.

You are completely incorrect.

https://www.princeton.edu/news/2023/07/12/new-study-evaluates-climate-impact-ira#:~:text=The research teams found that,journal Science on June 29.

This study, among others, not only confirms a reduction in emissions, but estimates more than 40% of a reduction by 2035 based on 2005 numbers.

When I was in college, my goal was to work for a green energy company. I didn’t think that was realistic for a chemical engineer for at least 15 years at best. And now, about 5 years after graduating? I’m working for a company that generates green energy and is also decarbonizing other industries.

I know doomposting has its place, but it should at least be factual.

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And how does that jive with record numbers of new oil and gas development leases? Do you not think those will raise emissions? Why are we putting trillions into new fossil fuel pipelines and production if we’re lowering our emissions? Not to mention that our emissions did not fall 2 OR 4% last year, they went UP 1.4%. The trend of emissions going down ended at the end of 2020.

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That study is talking about the US, it’s not talking about the world. If the US has done all of this work, and yet climate change is STILL happening and we’re dealing with it right now then the US is not the problem.

But why isn’t it working? Because China is the biggest polluter

https://world101.cfr.org/global-era-issues/climate-change/who-releases-most-greenhouse-gases

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Thank you. And great name.

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I read the article twice, chief.

“The left has won a lot more than “nothing” from engaging with the Democratic Party.”

“The left” in this instance is talking about actual leftists, and I would love anyone to point to me where the Democrats have done ANYTHING that LEFTISTS want. What have they done that fundamentally changes anything? What have they done that hasn’t been and won’t be stricken down by the courts? What have they done for labor organization?

Fuck the democrats.

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I would love anyone to point to me where the Democrats have done ANYTHING that LEFTISTS want.

You should read the article then.

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February 2023:
https://www.reuters.com/business/white-house-renews-pressure-railroads-over-paid-sick-leave-2023-02-09/

“White House renews pressure on railroads over paid sick leave”

June 2023:
https://www.ibew.org/media-center/Articles/23Daily/2306/230620_IBEWandPaid

"After months of negotiations, the IBEW’s Railroad members at four of the largest U.S. freight carriers finally have what they’ve long sought but that many working people take for granted: paid sick days.

Biden deserves a lot of the credit for achieving this goal for us,” Russo said. “He and his team continued to work behind the scenes to get all of rail labor a fair agreement for paid sick leave.”

Cue leftists: “Yes our stated goals were achieved and objections overcome, but it didn’t arrived perfectly packaged with a bow on top looking like our ideal utopia, therefore all problems with progress are clearly the Democrats fault.”

Seriously, please stop. Progress is never going to occur in exactly the way you think it should. It’s still progress. Don’t let the perfect be the enemy of the good.

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Democrats: “Better than nothing” ™

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4 sick days, and the ability to sacrifice earned vacation days for 3 more. You really think they would have had to settle for that if they were allowed to strike? It’s not even close to what they asked for, and they had significantly more leverage than the company until the Biden admin stepped in and defanged the union entirely.

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Crushing a labor strike so that Dems could negotiate better terms for the owners. Truly a win for the working class. You did it Libs!

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But, but, you gotta vote for Biden or Trump wins. /s

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