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152 points

The developer worked his ass off to repurpose his app to Lemmy for us.

I was more than happy to pay for his time. Hard work deserves reward. If people aren’t going to pay him and use the free version, which you’re welcome to, then he makes his money from ads (which pay fuck-all)

You’re just a bunch of cheapskates who want to be entertained for nothing.

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88 points

ya went a little too far at the end there. nothing wrong with not wanting to pay a subscription fee lol. its not a noble cause to pay some dude who made an app we dont need

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its not a noble cause to pay some dude who made an app we dont need

Do you think professional independent developers shouldn’t be paid for their work? Do you think this kind of development is effortless?

I don’t understand why people keep parroting this. The app is free. It’s a professionally developed app, where the quality tradeoff is either ads (which can be blocked) or your choice of ad removal payments.

This isn’t some company trying to exploit the community here, this is a full time app developer who just had his livelihood completely cut off. People begged him to make a version for Lemmy, and he did. He deserves to be paid for the hours and work he put in to make it happen. You can’t make an app if you can’t buy food or pay rent.

And if you don’t like that, then don’t use it. He’s never pressured users into paying, and he’s never suggested everyone on Lemmy should just send him money. He isn’t even spamming posts advertising the app, enthusiastic users are.

Why is everyone so upset?

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21 points

I’m not the one who’s upset. Look at the guy I replied to. I’m literally not using the app and it’s not my responsibility to support the creator lol. I’m literally just saying I’m not a cheapskate because I’m not using your paid alternative.

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12 points

Why is everyone so upset?

You know why, it’s because in the eyes of Lemmy users who have been here all along, launch of Sync is the start of their eternal September. I moved to reddit back in 2010 as a Digg refugee after the infamous redesign, I saw much of the same back then (down to the plethora of programming and Linux memes).

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7 points

It’s the reason lemmy is struggling, it’s mainly Linux gatekeepers and foss elitists. Along with lemmy needing a slight learning period, the community just spews toxic shit relentlessly.

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4 points

No, no, no.

This is the lemmyverse. We’re against people being entitled to cheap/free labor*

*until on the winning end

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This isn’t some company trying to exploit the community here, this is a full time app developer who just had his livelihood completely cut off.

A full time app developer who likely made millions off reddit and then threw his toys out of the cot when they asked to be paid. Instead of charging a subscription fee there, he came here and added ads to his app, charges you to remove them, and added a subscription fee lol.

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17 points

Complaining about a $20 purchase you don’t have to make qualifies for “cheapskate” I think. Simply not purchasing it, or not wanting to purchase it, is fine. The difference is entitlement.

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13 points

I think the point of this post was the lack of regional pricing, so for them it is not a $20 purchase.

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8 points

If you don’t need it just don’t buy it. You’re bitching about someone wanting money for their hard work.

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Not to mention, there are still a bunch of free options in other apps. Voyager, Memmy, modem, liftoff!, etc. Use one of those if you’re too cheap to pay for someone else’s work, yknow?

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-9 points

dumbfuck i wasnt the one bitching. read what i wrote asshole

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4 points

not wanting to pay a subscription fee

It’s a one-time $20. It’s literally in the meme were both commenting on.

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0 points

Irrelevant to my point but either way I saw other posts about a subscription.

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0 points

He didn’t go too far. It is a broad and overbearing, but generally accurate statement.

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8 points

How? I don’t want to pay for an app when I have one that satisfies my needs for free.That doesn’t make me a cheapskate. I was using this before Sync was even available. I can express my opinions about it too. I don’t think it’s worth the money when the service is already free and I don’t like it’s tactics to make you pay. But again, why would I care if someone paid for Sync? I’m not going to call all Sync users money wasters. Clearly they found value in it. People who didn’t aren’t just cheapskates

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25 points

The major issue for some is regional pricing. Where I’m from lifetime costs around $110 in regional currency

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24 points

He was implementing regional pricing this morning and looks like that should be happening today and tomorrow. I think that’s part of the reason so many people love Sync since the dev is ultra responsive.

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2 points

As far as I’ve read, that price is for both no ads and Ultra which I guess gives you more perks). For just no ads it is significantly less. For no ads in my version it’s $30CAD, which is a high price but is much much less than $100+CAD

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1 point

No, that’s lifetime ultra. A totally different thing, if you feel you need to pay more for a few extra features. You can also pay $20 to remove ads for a lifetime.

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11 points

Someone correct me but IIRC the Reddit Is Fun paid version costed way less that 20$.

I hope they release Lemmy Is Fun or something.

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13 points

Sync for reddit was also cheaper, but the market for a reddit app is much larger than Lemmy’s. We’ll see how boost and others will be priced, but I expect it will be pricier than the reddit version.

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The RIF dev ended up going with some non-federated reddit alternative. I get it, probably a much less flooded market (we already have so many options for Lemmy). But a bummer nonetheless.

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4 points

The RIF dev recently released an alpha for his Tildes app, Three Cheers for Tildes. It’s in an earlier state than Sync but already quite usable.

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1 point

Actually you’d be surprised how much ads can pull in. In a well optimized site you can make around $5 per user per month

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1 point

He doesn’t deserve any reward for making spyware/adware garbage. His app is at odds with the ethos of lemmy. Fuck your ad hominem.

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0 points

Lol spyware 🤣🤣

Do you work for free?

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3 points

@drekly @Plswrk, nobody needs to work for free, but creating incommings by spying the user to sell his data to third party isn’t an acceptable way to gain money. There are a lot of methodes to gain money in the network, but with surveillance advertising spyware is the worse and with big risks for the user, which can’t control where his personal data ends up.

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You can maneuver all you want, it is spyware. My hobby work is free. I don’t track my users nor do I inundate them with ads. I believe that’s unethical.

My work work is not available for free in any capacity whatsoever.

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1 point

Lol wow… Get off your high horse there. I didn’t ask for Sync for Lemmy, so why should I pay for it? I’m perfectly happy with the many other free apps that are in development.

It’s weird to think people are using the web app on mobile, though… Like… Why? There are so many great free options! Like, seriously… More than half a dozen!

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4 points

so why should I pay for it?

Did someone say you had to? Or that you even have to use the app?

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You got the money, you do you. His hardwork have nothing to do with how much i’m willing to pay lol, the end result is what i pay for, and it’s not worth the price to me.

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