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-7 points

That looks so pleasant but seems like a nightmare if you have to go long distances to somewhere specific.

Getting groceries would also probably be a pain. You would have to probably get a wagon or something.

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42 points

Can’t you walk for like 10 minutes to get stuff?

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I can, but the 40t truck that delivers the groceries to the store might have problems.

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Is the truck supposed to drive down the walkway with the pedestrians? That seems fucking terrible.

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21 points

I’m in a fairly dense, walkable neighborhood with grocery stores within a 5-minute walk of me. Stopping by a few times a week and carrying the groceries is very feasible. Else, I sometimes go to another grocery store that’s like a 10-minute bike ride away for certain items, and plenty of people just put pannier bags on their bikes for grocery shopping. I also see plenty of people with wagons for groceries in my neighborhood.

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8 points

I walk about 15-20 minutes 1 way to my grocer about twice a week and much prefer it over driving and buying in bulk. Carrying my grocceries home helps prevent me from over spending and buying junk foods and I end up eating more fresh produce and animal products than processed foods. The walk is also great for my physical and mental health.

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7 points

Less waste too. You buy only what you need, not what you might need

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11 points

generally places with high enough population density for streets have grocery stores often enough so you rarely have to walk more than 5-10 mins to get there so you dont have to buy enough food for a week on one go

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9 points

Yep, when people say that they’re imagining their 3 mile drive commute to the shop being replaced by walking when that’s not all that would change

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11 points

Exactly. No one’s advocating that walking be a drop-in replacement for all our driving trips. What this community wants is neighborhoods dense and walkable enough that you don’t have to travel 3 miles just to get groceries. Or if you do, there ought to at least be a high-quality bike path and/or public transit to get you there and back. Car-oriented urban design just needlessly spreads things out and needlessly segregates uses. Neighborhoods should be denser and mixed-use.

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8 points

There would still be roads just not everywhere. The roads would connect communities and since these community would be built around walking you would just take public transport.

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6 points

For convenience, the wagon could be motorized. Perhaps even have a nice, comfy seat or two.

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30 points

That’s just a fat people scooter

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3 points

Convenient for whom? Ever hear of the Tragedy of the Commons?

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1 point

Is that the one about the guy who was so powerful and so wise he could use the Force to influence the midichlorians to create life?

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4 points

If you have to go long distances, in modern countries, you take a train. Groceries are at a walkable distance, you can go 2 or 3 times a week easily, on the way back from work for example. Also tape water is drinkable there so you don’t need to carry heavy luxury plastic wrapped water.

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3 points

only if you are in bad fitness and adjusted to sitting around and driving all the time

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2 points

Found the American :)

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I have been on roads like that in Asia in urban areas. Basically mopeds are the answer to every “well what if I have to move a lot of stuff or get somewhere fast” question. It isn’t a perfect solution but it is a decent one.

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I’ve seen come crazy people on bikes man, surely that can be used

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3 points

But then you’ve got people on bikes trying to dodge pedestrians.

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